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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    This post was already repetitive, and now you're repeating for both of us.
    So, why don't you try responding to my point so I can stop repeating it? You keep on saying that governments tend to cause more destruction than corporations and I am responding that you should focus less on the formal orders these institutions grant and more on what their leaders do and who they were influenced by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    So, why don't you try responding to my point so I can stop repeating it? You keep on saying that governments tend to cause more destruction than corporations and I am responding that you should focus less on the formal orders these institutions grant and more on what their leaders do and who they were influenced by.
    The reason I respond the same way is contained in one or two of my responses above. I agree that "governments don't kill people, people kill people," as it were. But on your side, I see someone who blames corporations for all evil and looks to government for all the answers (yes I know governments are comprised of people).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    But on your side, I see someone who blames corporations for all evil and looks to government for all the answers (yes I know governments are comprised of people).
    That's just the stereotype of American liberals, my views are more in line with ordoliberalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordoliberalism.

    Government intervention in corporate cartels is not the entire solution to the problem, it is only a tiny fraction of the solution. Other parts of the solution include re-education of the public and socio-political action that alleviates other social injustices of our societies that prevents most citizens from becoming active participants in the political institutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    That's just the stereotype of American liberals, my views are more in line with ordoliberalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordoliberalism.

    Government intervention in corporate cartels is not the entire solution to the problem, it is only a tiny fraction of the solution. Other parts of the solution include re-education of the public and socio-political action that alleviates other social injustices of our societies that prevents most citizens from becoming active participants in the political institutions.
    Ah yes, I read the German constitution online once and it contained a lot of stuff like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Ah yes, I read the German constitution online once and it contained a lot of stuff like that.
    It contained a lot of ordoliberal tenets or ideas that you associate with American liberalism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    It contained a lot of ordoliberal tenets or ideas that you associate with American liberalism?
    It contains a lot of dispensing of special rights to groups of individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    That's just the stereotype of American liberals, my views are more in line with ordoliberalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordoliberalism.

    Government intervention in corporate cartels is not the entire solution to the problem, it is only a tiny fraction of the solution. Other parts of the solution include re-education of the public and socio-political action that alleviates other social injustices of our societies that prevents most citizens from becoming active participants in the political institutions.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordoliberalism seems to be built on sound logic, but would it spur innovation into high speed in order to combat various problems the Earth is facing—including a limited supply of resources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordoliberalism seems to be built on sound logic, but would it spur innovation into high speed in order to combat various problems the Earth is facing—including a limited supply of resources?
    My familiarity with ordoliberalism is limited, but I think rather than put innovation in high speed to combat limited supply of resources they would rather turn the clock back. So somebody like Wilhelm Ropke's solution for the high energy cost of industrialized agriculture that uses natural gas for fertilizer and oil for transport would be to have humans just expend more individual energy by having backyard gardens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    That's just the stereotype of American liberals, my views are more in line with ordoliberalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordoliberalism.

    Government intervention in corporate cartels is not the entire solution to the problem, it is only a tiny fraction of the solution. Other parts of the solution include re-education of the public and socio-political action that alleviates other social injustices of our societies that prevents most citizens from becoming active participants in the political institutions.
    would not this lack of understanding perpetuates existing trends for those who stand to benefit
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