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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Lol.

    Yeah, no.
    Take the weakest thing in you
    And then beat the bastards with it
    And always hold on when you get love
    So you can let go when you give it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    Lol.

    Yeah, no.
    Unfortunately, it's true under the law.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    Since they have similar brains than we do, probably. Then again brains is not consciousness, so Im not quiet sure either. Im guessing the apes can perform excercises that show they have a sense of individuality?
    Dolphins aren't as smart as or smarter than humans. And a great deal of their neural cortex is devoted to generating emotions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Dolphins aren't as smart as or smarter than humans. And a great deal of their neural cortex is devoted to generating emotions.
    I was talking about great apes, not dolphins, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    I was talking about great apes, not dolphins, lol.
    Then I don't see where you find the similarity between a great ape brain and a human brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Then I don't see where you find the similarity between a great ape brain and a human brain.
    "Similarity" is subjective. You should be more precise. You're an INTP, shouldn't know better?
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Unfortunately, it's true under the law.
    It only took me 0.3 seconds to Google this.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/don-ta...b_1888885.html

    Corporations AREN'T people, how silly! Corporations are legally considered "individuals" in order to protect CEOs from personal liability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    "Similarity" is subjective. You should be more precise. You're an INTP, shouldn't know better?
    I resemble that remark!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    It only took me 0.3 seconds to Google this.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/don-ta...b_1888885.html

    Corporations AREN'T people, how silly! Corporations are legally considered "individuals" in order to protect CEOs from personal liability.
    Corporate personhood was established by the 14th amendment and upheld by the Supreme Court in the 1886 case Santa Clara vs Southern Pacific. Your link is to an op-ed that is talking mostly about ethics, not the actual law.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Corporate personhood was established by the 14th amendment and upheld by the Supreme Court in the 1886 case Santa Clara vs Southern Pacific. Your link is to an op-ed that is talking mostly about ethics, not the actual law.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
    "the legal concept that a corporation may be recognized as an individual in the eyes of the law." That's exactly What I said.

    As for corporations being "people," consider the Huffington Post article which you dismissed with the wave of a hand. -

    "While corporations may enjoy the benefits of being considered a person, they don't feel constrained by the responsibilities and obligations that most people feel. Most people, through social convention or enlightened self interest, usually care about the consequences of their actions on others. Many companies do not, or view such considerations as tangential."

    From a purely philosophical perspective, corporations AREN'T persons because they can't make moral decisions. A person is, by the very definition of "person," a moral agent, not an entity behind which CEOs can protect their assets.
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