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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Stalkers don't dial 911 while stalking a victim.
    Zimmerman isn't your typical stalker. He's a pedophile and a murderer. All he needs now is cannibalism for the hat trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    This is all madness anyhow. I'm just going to run with this one.

    "Yes, this man is confirmed to have personally ordered the death of 2000 Jews, but I believe it is a fundamental trait of forward thinking nations such as our own that all people be presumed innocent until proven guilty. The question is not whether he ordered 2000 Jews to die, the question is why? Were these Jews conspiring a violent insurrection in Berlin? We they carrying a highly virulent and deadly disease for which there was no cure? These possibilities must be considered. If there is any reasonable doubt that this man acted without reasonable suspicion of threat being posed by those Jews, then I say we cannot, in good conscience, lock this man in a cell for the rest of his life."

    I don't think an effective prosecution system should depend on disproving every possible hypothetical scenario in favor of the defendant.

    Year 18 of the George Zimmerman trial

    "The people of the jury will see that the prosecution has yet to disprove that Trayvon Martin was a member of a terrorist cell and that George Zimmerman was an acting agent of the CIA who to this day, for security reasons, cannot disclose his mission or his true identity. If it possible that Trayvon Martin was a terrorist and George Zimmerman was a CIA agent pursuing him, you must acquit!"

    I suppose I don't agree with the definition of "reasonable" as it is used by Zimmerman's advocates.
    If the guy who ordered the murders of those Jews were all bloodied up, and all the Jews who were murdered were unharmed save for the killing shots, and if all the Jews were beating up on the guy, then I'd say that defense holds water. As it stands, it isn't relevant to this circumstance (in terms of casting reasonable doubt).
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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    So the facts lie as I suspected. It is unfortunate to many's perceptions that the evidence does indeed show Trayvon to be the primary instigator of the physical altercation.

    The alternative to today's judgement is a system of law far inferior to what is in place - a system of intuition and unsubstantiated thought. What happened that day between Martin and Zimmerman will forever only be known between them two.
    Excuse me, but what facts prove Martin hit Zimmerman first? I haven't found those facts, so it would be really useful to know. The school suspensions?

    I suppose those are facts.

    Here are some other facts:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Zimmerman isn't your typical stalker. He's a pedophile and a murderer. All he needs now is cannibalism for the hat trick.
    Found not guilty of murder, and no evidence of pedophilia. The claim that Z molested a girl when he was 8 years old is an old, and weird, claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Lateralus, I actually hadn't heard about the pedophile thing but I just looked it up. I wonder why that hasn't gotten more attention? It's not really relevant to this case, I guess, but since when does that stop the media?
    It annoys me that people act like this is a gun control issue (on both sides) and that people are rushing to the defense of this sick fuck for political reasons. I guarantee you Martin will not be the last person harmed by Zimmerman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Excuse me, but what facts prove Martin hit Zimmerman first? I haven't found those facts, so it would be really useful to know. The school suspensions?
    Um, how about, no evidence that Martin was hit or punched?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Found not guilty of murder, and no evidence of pedophilia. The claim that Z molested a girl when he was 8 years old is an old, and weird, claim.
    The 8 year old girl was probably asking for it, just like Martin. Right?
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    The 8 year old girl was probably asking for it, just like Martin. Right?
    As I said, no evidence that 8 year old Zimmerman committed any such act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Zimmerman isn't your typical stalker. He's a pedophile and a murderer. All he needs now is cannibalism for the hat trick.
    I suppose I just don't share your utter confidence in casting judgment upon people for whom I have no clear evidence. And before you go "well he is a murderer because Trayvon is dead," I would argue that the term murderer (and all the connotations that go with it) is customarily reserved for those people who end another person's life under a certain set of conditions; we do not know for sure what the conditions in this circumstance were.
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