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    Don't bother you with facts, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    I mostly care about the white on black angle as an explanation for why Zimmerman acted the way he did. I don't think that the crime is somehow worse than it would be if everyone was the same race.



    Yes, but if you start a fight (as I believe Zimmerman did, although there is no conclusive evidence) I'm rather surprised that killing the other person because it turns out you suck at fighting counts as self-defense.
    How did Z start a fight? On my planet at least, you have to throw a punch or something like that. What do they do on your planet? Blow water from their spouts at each other?




    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    It wouldn't matter if he had the crown jewels of England in his backpack. It is not up to citizens to determine innocence or guilt through vigilante justice.
    Where was vigilante justice involved in this case? Was Trayvon attacking Z an act of vigilante justice?

    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Possibly, but I am not a member of the jury or involved with the case in any way. I cannot possibly affect the outcome of the trial. I do not need to provide testimony or make arguments that won't get thrown out, so the only thing that matters, given my lack of involvement, is my personal opinion on the matter. I believe it is possible for the laws of the state of Florida to be fucking retarded, so I would prefer to not involve them in my academic consideration of this case, as they appear to make no sense. If your legal intepretation of said laws is correct, they suggest that the state of Florida does not believe trials are necessary at all, which makes discussing the outcome of the case ridiculous, since it treats frontier justice and trial justice as valid paths to the same end, like some people want insurance companies to treat alternative medicine.

    I just hope Florida brings back trial by battle soon. Let God decide!
    Shooting someone who is on top of you banging your head into a sidewalk is not frontier justice in any jurisdiction. Do you have any real examples of frontier justice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    I'm not talking to you anymore.
    Why, for bringing up the fact that people of different skin colors speak Spanish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Why, for bringing up the fact that people of different skin colors speak Spanish?
    No.

    By the way, Zimmerman was just found NOT guilty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    How did Z start a fight? On my planet at least, you have to throw a punch or something like that.
    It's my understanding that there is no conclusive evidence as to who threw the first punch.

    What do they do on your planet? Blow water from their spouts at each other?
    Yes, and also really giant queef bubbles.





    Where was vigilante justice involved in this case? Was Trayvon attacking Z an act of vigilante justice?

    Shooting someone who is on top of you banging your head into a sidewalk is not frontier justice in any jurisdiction. Do you have any real examples of frontier justice?
    Oh, so Zimmerman was just following Martin to sell girl scout cookies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    By the way, Zimmerman was just found NOT guilty.
    Yeah, it's a shame. But it doesn't change my mind about Zimmerman any more than the Jury's ruling changed my mind about Casey Anthony.

    Well, anyhow, if you have any enemies in Florida, just create a scenario for you to defend yourself against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    No.

    By the way, Zimmerman was just found NOT guilty.
    Look forward to gun control gaining ground in the next few years, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    It's my understanding that there is no conclusive evidence as to who threw the first punch.



    Yes, and also really giant queef bubbles.







    Oh, so Zimmerman was just following Martin to sell girl scout cookies.
    Following someone is not starting a fight. It's not even a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Look forward to gun control gaining ground in the next few years, then.
    That's a given. And if (as some think) there will be an armed revolt in this country, there will be a ban on all gun ownership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Yeah, it's a shame. But it doesn't change my mind about Zimmerman any more than the Jury's ruling changed my mind about Casey Anthony.
    Or the jury's ruling in favor of OJ at his murder trial.
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