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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    No, usually men who want serious relationships with adult entertainers are in it for themselves. I understand adult entertainment from an "insider view" and I've found that the men who really loved me most had nothing but contempt for it, and were ok with me doing it while I was on my own, but would have problems with me doing it within a relationship.

    The one man I met who was okay with me being a dancer within our relationship eventually admitted that he liked me having the money. He didn't care how I got it, and admitted that he'd once gotten sociopath on an Internet test. I found my way away from him quickly. He was kind of an "outwardly nerdy-nice" guy like Snowden, too.

    I don't respect men who are well-off financially who encourage or support their fiance (remember she was a fiance, not a gf) or wife in topless dancing.

    It's a bunch of shit. I think anyone who knew about the business who wanted to support their SO in adult entertainment would lean more toward supporting their SO to do photography or video work or even something like sensual massage or true burlesque.

    I can't imagine anyone with any human dignity or morals wanting their SO to be an exotic dancer or an escort while ENGAGED or MARRIED...unless they were so strapped for money they couldn't afford anything else, and did so out of embarrassment.

    There's a difference between being a third wave feminist (sex positive) and just being a douchebag...and I find, personally, that douchebaggery is the key flaw and unexpected consequence of feminism. Like Victoria says in Tim Burton's "Dark Shadows"..."if the sexes were equal, men would get out of control."

    Have you seen the film Ted? Edward Snowden reminds me of the guy in Ted.
    No, I haven't. Seth MacFarlane is retarded.

    You seem to think stripping is only legitimate if a woman can't find a man to support her. That doesn't seem like a very liberated position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    I support free speech as the basis of liberal democracy.

    While 57 Islamic States are trying to stifle free speech at the United Nations.

    So I have a duty not to censor free speech but to openly oppose illiberal ideas.
    Better do the liberal thing and ban the Koran then! You know, in defense of free speech!

    He was kind of an "outwardly nerdy-nice" guy like Snowden, too.
    Thank you for confirming so many of my suspicions. I support Snowden even more now.

    Compassion and "non-conformity" at work!
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Better do the liberal thing and ban the Koran then!
    Banning the Koran would be illiberal. Just as banning criticism of the Koran would be illiberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Banning the Koran would be illiberal. Just as banning criticism of the Koran would be illiberal.
    Yup. Is this actually a thing?
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Yup. Is this actually a thing?
    Resolution 16/18 of the United Nations bans criticism of the Koran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Resolution 16/18 of the United Nations bans criticism of the Koran.

    1. It doesn't seem to explicitly mention the Koran, which I feel is worth pointing out, even though I object to special protections for religions, and I think "hate speech" legislation is counter-productive at best.
    2. The UN has no power, which is why the evangelical conspiracies about it always make me lol. It's kind of useless as a law-making authority. Powerful countries (like the U.S.) only follow it when convenient, and probably less powerful ones, as well.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    1. It doesn't seem to explicitly mention the Koran, which I feel is worth pointing out, even though I object to special protections for religions, and I think "hate speech" legislation is counter-productive at best.
    2. The UN has no power, which is why the evangelical conspiracies about it always make me lol. It's kind of useless as a law-making authority. Powerful countries (like the U.S.) only follow it when convenient. I'm not sure about less powerful countries.
    57 Islamic countries have rejected the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in favour of Sharia. And resolution 16/18 was crafted by the same countries to stop criticism of Islam and the Koran.

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    What does UN Resolution 16/18 have to with Snowden? Is the US going to arrest him for violating that?
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    What does UN Resolution 16/18 have to with Snowden? Is the US going to arrest him for violating that?
    Good question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    What does UN Resolution 16/18 have to with Snowden? Is the US going to arrest him for violating that?
    Good question.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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