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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    I'm saying, think outside the box. Why are radical leftists so stuck inside their little world-view?
    Oh OK, I dont think that was clear, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Oh OK, I dont think that was clear, thanks.
    So why are leftists so stuck inside their little worldview?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    So why are leftists so stuck inside their little worldview?
    Your premise is unsupported and flawed so there's nowhere for the discussion to go. I think you know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Your premise is unsupported and flawed so there's nowhere for the discussion to go. I think you know that.
    Which part of my premise is unsupported and flawed? The part about leftists, inside, little, or worldview? Or is it the premise that there is a "why" behind anything leftists believe?
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    I'm still choking on the "no disease from GM food" bit. I wish I had a link, but I've seen articles floating around that all the gluten sensitivity in the US got going around the time they (Monsanto?) started testing GMO wheat. It could be a coincidence, but it doesn't seem likely. I don't know. I'm suspicious of plants that have pesticide/round-up/whatever built-in.

    As for water being considered a foodstuff instead of a public right...Isn't it treated a bit like that already? At least here in the US, we have to buy our water from the public utility if we don't have (or aren't allowed, like in my area) a private well? I don't agree with it, but some form of the "foodstuff" idea exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meda View Post
    I'm still choking on the "no disease from GM food" bit. I wish I had a link, but I've seen articles floating around that all the gluten sensitivity in the US got going around the time they (Monsanto?) started testing GMO wheat. It could be a coincidence, but it doesn't seem likely. I don't know. I'm suspicious of plants that have pesticide/round-up/whatever built-in.

    As for water being considered a foodstuff instead of a public right...Isn't it treated a bit like that already? At least here in the US, we have to buy our water from the public utility if we don't have (or aren't allowed, like in my area) a private well? I don't agree with it, but some form of the "foodstuff" idea exists.
    GMOs don't contain pesticides or weedkiller. That's the beauty of it - no chemicals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    GMOs don't contain pesticides or weedkiller. That's the beauty of it - no chemicals.
    So what's with all the hubub? I need to read more. >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    GMOs don't contain pesticides or weedkiller. That's the beauty of it - no chemicals.
    One of the genetic changes done causes corn to produce an insecticide using genes from a bacteria which naturally produce it.

    However, insects are developing resistance to the GMO's insecticide, and farmers are often going back to chemicals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAVO View Post
    One of the genetic changes done causes corn to produce an insecticide using genes from a bacteria which naturally produce it.

    However, insects are developing resistance to the GMO's insecticide, and farmers are often going back to chemicals.
    Yes, there are a lot of myths about GMOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    GMOs don't contain pesticides or weedkiller. That's the beauty of it - no chemicals.
    Wrong. Why lie?

    http://www2.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef130.asp

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_maize
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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