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    A sign announcing the acceptance of electronic Benefit Transfer cards at a farmers market in Roseville, California. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)

    It’s official: Congress will slash food stamp funding in the midst of a deep economic recession, when more people rely on food stamps than ever before.

    Monday night, the Senate passed a five-year farm bill that contained $4.1 billion in cuts to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) over ten years. This ensures that the only debate now will be about how much to cut—and it’s likely to result in cuts much deeper than $4.1 billion.

    The House Agriculture Committee passed a farm bill last month that cut $20.5 billion from SNAP by removing “categorical eligibility” (more on that here), which would take food stamps away from 2 million Americans and hundreds of thousands of children.

    That bill has yet to be fully debated and passed on the House floor, and the push to make the cuts even deeper will be strong—conservatives have insisted on even deeper cuts. Representative Paul Ryan’s 2013 budget, for example, called for $135 billion in food stamp cuts, and on Tuesday, twenty-five House Republicans wrote to House Speaker John Boehner to remove food stamp funding from the bill altogether. (They just want the program debated on a separate track, but the barely implicit message in the letter is that they don’t want to be forced to agree to “only” $20.5 billion in food stamp cuts at the risk of killing the farm bill.)

    The House bill, once passed, will head to conference committee, and the negotiators will have to reach a consensus number. Without question, it won’t be lower than $4.1 billion.

    Why did Democrats in the Senate head down this road? Some attempted not to—Senator Kirsten Gillibrand introduced a bill last month that blocked any food stamp cuts, but only twenty-five of her colleagues, and zero Republicans, voted for it. It failed 70-26.

    Senator Debbie Stabenow, chair of the Senate Agriculture committee, has defended the cuts as designed only to stop “waste, fraud and abuse” in the SNAP program, and urged Democrats to vote against Gillibrand’s bill. “Every family that currently qualifies for nutrition assistance in this country continues to get that assistance,” she said. “We do make sure there is integrity in the programs.”

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    That’s not really what the bill does, however. It cuts $4.1 billion by eliminating the “Heat and Eat” programs adopted by several states that coordinate low-income heating assistance with SNAP benefits, thus allowing a slightly larger benefit. The Coalition on Human Needs explains:

    Fifteen states and the District of Columbia have opted to provide SNAP households with a nominal [Low Income Heating Assistance Program] payment, so that instead of having to provide burdensome monthly documentation of their shelter and heating/utility bills, they can deduct a standard allowance from their income, thereby increasing the amount of SNAP benefits they qualify for. This “Heat and Eat” approach disproportionately helps seniors and those with disabilities, who pay a high proportion of their income on shelter costs. Without this coordinated approach, such households may lose $50—$75 a month in SNAP benefits.

    Aside from being, well, cruel, the food stamp cuts in the Senate bill are also damaging to the economy. The Center for American Progress, in a study released in March, found that for every $1 billion cut from SNAP, 13,718 jobs are lost:

    Read more: The Sword Drops on Food Stamps | The Nation http://www.thenation.com/blog/174753...#ixzz2VzFj7aDX
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    im not really concerned with crime going up as I am with children starving and seniors turning to cat food and dog food to get by. im willing to pay the extra amount. I increased in taxes the amount in my checks that would be taken out because it bothers me. (sometimes i wonder if these little scenarios are set up so someone can come out as savior) what are your thoughts on ths?
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    I think it's both stupid and cruel. The food allowance isn't that big to begin with. For seniors, who often live alone, the help they get, if any, will be of little use. According to articles about people taking the food stamp challenge, the average family currently gets $4.80 per person per day and that can be pretty tough to do depending where you live. The larger your family, the easier it is, but it really is going to be especially tough for seniors, IMO. Kids at least get school breakfast and lunch and sometimes WIC. If they aren't also cutting those programs.
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    "We've been a bad economy, bad! Go to our room without supper and think about what we've done!"


    ... said the people who believe entitlement programs are gluttonous establishments of moral inferiority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasoline View Post
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    im not really concerned with crime going up as I am with children starving and seniors turning to cat food and dog food to get by. im willing to pay the extra amount. I increased in taxes the amount in my checks that would be taken out because it bothers me. (sometimes i wonder if these little scenarios are set up so someone can come out as savior) what are your thoughts on ths?
    In terms of the public spend in the US I'm betting that this is mere pennies, absolute pennies.

    Although I'd question why the market isnt providing a solution, this shouldnt be happening you believe the free market fables which are popular with most of the reading public, maybe they are just fables after all but I dont hear a lot of people saying so.

    I've read that further away from a lived reality any idea becomes the more sacred it becomes as an abstract respected, honoured, revered or appealing theory and market forces ability to produce equity and efficiency for all, spontaneous prosperity and banish poverty seems a good example.

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    What the hell happened to my country? What makes people want to deprive the weak and helpless?

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    Sadly, it has become common for such cuts to coincide with economic crisis. There's an absurd logic to it, the logic of austerity. In practical effect, austerity always seems to amount to pouring vinegar on a wound.

    Of course, corporations keep pulling in those record profits!

    This is just piece of the USA's general descent into some sort of plutocracy.

    As an aside, kudos to Gillibrand's efforts. She has gradually been impressing me.
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    And yet where are the cuts to corporate welfare! Which has at times cost the taxpayers twice as much as the entire social welfare system. It's sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sorenx7 View Post
    What the hell happened to my country? What makes people want to deprive the weak and helpless?
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    war on "terrorism"
    This trend was set in motion decades before the war on terrorism started.
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    I know it varies from state to state, but I've known some totally destitute people who got more SNAP money than they could spend in a month on food.
    However, I imagine those people in that tricky middle area might suffer more. Not sure how it works.

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