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    Default The accelerating dissolution of all borders

    ..Is happening so fast it is kind of scary.

    Are we really citizens of one particular country anymore? I can talk to anyone around the globe instantly. We can even physically be anywhere within a day's time, but within a few years as the virtual/augmented reality boom occurs, we won't even need to physically go places to experience them.

    What about outsourcing jobs? Soon enough it seems, companies will barely need to hire from within the country at all. I think this could be a really good way to bring the whole globe up at an even speed rather than having uneven pockets of growth, hegemony, and exploitation. I could be wrong about that, who knows how it will turn out.

    What will happen to our political leaders and figureheads? What sort of control will they be able to exert when what was once a fairly well defined country is now a matter of principle?

    One interesting and perhaps taboo place this is also occurring is in the bedroom. We are quickly transitioning to the point where everyone is an amateur pornstar... nothing is holding people back from setting up their own livecam channels, uploading their own pictures and videos, etc., and this is indeed what we are starting to see on places like reddit, xhamster, and other sites I don't know about lol. I think the conventional wisdom is that looking at porn is not cheating... but is watching livecams and actually being able to chat with the people in real time? And what will happen as the trend continues?

    Things to think about and discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    ..Is happening so fast it is kind of scary.
    Things to think about and discuss.
    Actually it is happening in slow motion. For the printing press was invented in 1440 and the electric telegraph in 1840.

    And print is now the content of electric media. For instance, you are not reading print as you thought, but you are reading electric print (eprint).

    And moving from a print dominated society to an electric dominated society changes everything from our sense ratios to our social values.

    We are moving from the domination of the literate individual to the domination of the electric tribe, like the etribe of Central.

    So the change is taking place over centuries, but compared to say the Agrarian Revolution, called the Neolithic Revolution or the Agricultural Revolution from hunting and gathering to agriculture, the Electric Revolution is proceeding rather fast, but still takes centuries.

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    Borders are the result of linear and sequential print, but in the electric media everything happens all at once and so there are no borders.

    Print privileges the eye and the eye needs borders to see, but the electric media democratise the senses, and for instance just as the ear hears everything at once, the ear has no need of borders to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Actually it is happening in slow motion. For the printing press was invented in 1440 and the electric telegraph in 1840.

    And print is now the content of electric media. For instance, you are not reading print as you thought, but you are reading electric print (eprint).

    And moving from a print dominated society to an electric dominated society changes everything from our sense ratios to our social values.

    We are moving from the domination of the literate individual to the domination of the electric tribe, like the etribe of Central.

    So the change is taking place over centuries, but compared to say the Agrarian Revolution, called the Neolithic Revolution or the Agricultural Revolution from hunting and gathering to agriculture, the Electric Revolution is proceeding rather fast, but still takes centuries.
    As far as I am concerned, and I haven't read anything about this, the electric revolution is over and we are now in the age of the computer/communication revolution.

    They are happening faster and faster. Perhaps what will happen next is a revolution of the mind itself. Scientists are fast realizing ways to read people's thoughts with equipment. In a matter of a few years, people will be able to record their own dreams, for instance.

    I could speak of various other revolutions occurring simultaneously, but I guess I'll stay on topic and try to keep the discussion about borders. All very interesting stuff, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Borders are the result of linear and sequential print, but in the electric media everything happens all at once and so there are no borders.

    Print privileges the eye and the eye needs borders to see, but the electric media democratise the senses, and for instance just as the ear hears everything at once, the ear has no need of borders to hear.
    Interesting insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    the electric revolution is over and we are now in the age of the computer/communication revolution.

    They are happening faster and faster. Perhaps what will happen next is a revolution of the mind itself.
    The computer is electric.

    And when things happen faster and faster, when the linear and sequential happens faster and faster, it slows right down and transforms into pattern recognition.

    For instance, the wheel speeds up the linear, sequential steps of walking into driving where we no longer take sequential steps but recognise the patterns of the road.

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    You can slow it down if you are not feeling well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    the electric revolution is over and we are now in the age of the computer/communication revolution.
    The Age of Print began in 1440 with the invention of the printing press, and the Electric Age began in 1840 with the invention of the electric telegraph.

    And computers are electric and so part of the Electric Age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    The Age of Print began in 1440 with the invention of the printing press, and the Electric Age began in 1840 with the invention of the electric telegraph.

    And computers are electric and so part of the Electric Age.
    Didn't you already say that in this thread?

    By the way, is this an official classification or just your opinion?

    Never mind. I see the pattern; you do this habitually in all threads. It's called splitting hairs, I'm sure you've heard the phrase. You realize it doesn't endear you to people, right? Aside from being exceptionally annoying, it is a cheap way to "be right" in discussions that aren't even supposed to be arguments. So, try getting back on topic.

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    Just ask an average third world immigrant if borders don't exist anymore...

    Thousands of them die each year proving the opposite.
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