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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I'm pretty sure I'd be dead by now. lmao
    Rule of thumb: cars should be considered concealment, not cover unless you are positioned so that the engine block is between you and the shooter. Al Pacino did this correctly in Heat when he was reloading his FNC while Val Kilmer was shooting at him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD45T-2 View Post
    Rule of thumb: cars should be considered concealment, not cover unless you are positioned so that the engine block is between you and the shooter. Al Pacino did this correctly in Heat when he was reloading his FNC while Val Kilmer was shooting at him.
    That should be a thread. "What to do if you find yourself in a gunfight against a movie villain" or alternatively "Common tropes in movies that will get you killed in real life."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winds of Thor View Post
    What does that mean?
    Cant make it any clearer I'm afraid, was more or less self explanatory.

    As for the rest of the post, well, you've got to be kidding me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD45T-2 View Post
    Rule of thumb: cars should be considered concealment, not cover unless you are positioned so that the engine block is between you and the shooter. Al Pacino did this correctly in Heat when he was reloading his FNC while Val Kilmer was shooting at him.
    I have heard of this rule but I'd probably forget if I was in a real shoot out.

    (and btw I liked Robert DeNiro's character better)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post
    That should be a thread. "What to do if you find yourself in a gunfight against a movie villain" or alternatively "Common tropes in movies that will get you killed in real life."
    Yes! Do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Cant make it any clearer I'm afraid, was more or less self explanatory.

    As for the rest of the post, well, you've got to be kidding me...
    Your suggesting violent crime be equal to any degree one side another to another is deplorable and negligent. Terrible suggestion. Suggesting violent crime-Seriously?

    The United States Constitution was founded on the right of freedom for people and by people and of our people. That shall not be infringed. Our country was founded, in part, on these truths. We know what men in power want. Men in power want more power.. We know that men can be tricked.

    History teaches many many duplicate examples of man attempting to conquer and do terrible things to people. We know that.

    No kidding at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winds of Thor View Post
    The Japanese did not invade Hawaii or California and the sole reason is because they learned Americans own firearms, and it would have been hell on earth on our mainland had we not.
    OK, I'm going to want to see a source for this. Those places also happen to be rather far from Japan, and probably very resource intensive to hold, and difficult to defend. It made more sense for Japan to concentrate on Asia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winds of Thor View Post
    The Japanese did not invade Hawaii or California and the sole reason is because they learned Americans own firearms, and it would have been hell on earth on our mainland had we not.
    Not only that, but American gun ownership is the only thing between us and an alien invasion. It's not only our patriotic duty to own guns, it's our planetary duty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winds of Thor View Post
    The Japanese did not invade Hawaii or California and the sole reason is because they learned Americans own firearms, and it would have been hell on earth on our mainland had we not.
    I'm quite sure this constitutes as a beginning of an invasion. But that is just me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post
    Of course I find it strange. However, we're discussing what effect gun control would have on the murder rate. If you're trying to say that guns cause the strange murder rate, I'll have to disagree. I believe them a symptom, not a cause. If that's not what you're saying, you'll need to elaborate.
    It is definitely a symptom, I think SOME gun control can prevent deaths that wouldn't need to be there.

    I think the more pressing issue is unemployment, low-wages, and bad neighborhoods. We can think of Chicago. Chicago as a whole isn't that bad, but there is a section of Chicago that is just crime-ridden, to the point the Chicago Police wouldn't even want to go there. That area is littered with people on extremely low income, little to no way of getting out (because being poor tends to be recursive,) and the ones that do try to get out, end up being part of the system.

    We can also look at a city near my area. Stockton, California. A city that was doing ok, until the housing bust. Now it is bankrupt because of the 2008 Bank Failures... and has a lot more crime than most of California (maybe less than typical Oakland.)

    Now, what is a living wage that makes a person happy? Turns out, it is about $50,000 to $75,000, about 50% of United States makes less than that, not to mention that those percentage that I linked are household incomes (not single incomes) which is more depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post
    That should be a thread. "What to do if you find yourself in a gunfight against a movie villain" or alternatively "Common tropes in movies that will get you killed in real life."
    I'm a big Michael Mann fan. He's one of the few filmmakers who actually gets it right most of the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I have heard of this rule but I'd probably forget if I was in a real shoot out.
    That's okay. It seems improbable to me that you would get into a situation like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD45T-2 View Post
    That's okay. It seems improbable to me that you would get into a situation like that.
    But I do have plans to do a bank heist.

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