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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I never saw Legos as for boys, I didnt see them as gendered at all.
    So girls can do legos only if they are pink?

    The lego company does not think much of girls.
    Does the lego company think much of any child?

    The legos are model-instructed.
    What does it mean? It means it is not only the girls who are circumscribed.

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    I think legos will just exasperate existing body image issues. How can young girls possibly expect to conform to the rectangular glossy form of blocks?

    The manufactures should be ashamed.
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    I always wanted a Johnny Lightening 500 race car set, but I was a girl, so...I was a big tomboy. The girlfriend's daughter is named Olivia and she wanted the 'Olivia' LEGO set, so...She got into them because of my grandson. He was always playing with them so the girls got into them too. The 'girly' ones were the ones they preferred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    I don't want to argue Rachel Ray's type again, but just to let you know, her own description of your childhood sounds something like what you're saying. She liked Erector sets, and I think otherwise wasn't into girlish stuff. (Recall, I believe she's the same type you're wearing now, and all the "gurlishness" and "Fe" we see today is really from just a strong tertiary).
    Gender non-conformity is not type related. Just look at this thread!

    My best friend as a child was an ESFJ, and she was less gender-conforming than I was. Then she came out at 16. Don't underestimate SJs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboo View Post
    I think legos will just exasperate existing body image issues. How can young girls possibly expect to conform to the rectangular glossy form of blocks?

    The manufactures should be ashamed.
    You meant exacerbate, yeah?

    I agree it's silly, though. There's no way LEGOs have anything to do with body image...in fact, that's such a stretch that I almost can't believe that the company used that as a facet of their marketing campaign for the product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    You meant exacerbate, yeah?
    Possibly. Probably. I don't know. Irritate intensely, infuriate vs. Make (a problem, bad situation, or negative feeling) worse.

    Sounds like a yes. Either way I pronounce it wrong. How did I not learn this in SAT prep?

    I agree it's silly, though. There's no way LEGOs have anything to do with body image...in fact, that's such a stretch that I almost can't believe that the company used that as a facet of their marketing campaign for the product.
    I think it was just the lady in the article saying that, if it's LEGO itself that's pretty silly. She went on to compare LEGO to Barbie. I mean, I sort of doubt LEGO has a therapeutic effect in this realm. Is it better for body image than Barbie?

    I love them because finally she's reaching for a scientist in a lab coat and not Barbie in a bikini with a disfigured body image,” Ms. Newsome, of Norfolk, Va. said this morning.

    Indeed, LEGO has inadvertently leveled the playing field of body types, leaving girls free to be “Imagineers” who concentrate on building dreams of being grown-up Geekettes instead of imagining ways to reengineer their bodies to fit an impossible image. LEGOs body shapes are more realistically proportioned and less revealing. Compared to a Barbie, they’re universes apart.
    I guess Barbie is supposed to be sort of realistic but clearly isn't, but I'm no developmental psychologist so I don't know if/how children perceive/attempt to actually adapt themselves to that. LEGO is clearly non-reality but represents humans. Also I think the comment demonstrates some prudishness IMO. Maybe Barbie is a scientist. She also likes going to the beach with her weird disfigured body on the weekends.

    I'd just go with the argument that teaching girls to only play dress-up is probably not the best way to go about things, and a toy that encourages building things and interacting in environments is probably an improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Gender non-conformity is not type related. Just look at this thread!

    My best friend as a child was an ESFJ, and she was less gender-conforming than I was. Then she came out at 16. Don't underestimate SJs!
    Just saying, she sounds a lot like what you're describing.

    Your friend came out; you mean as gay, right? If so, I wasn't talking about sexual orientation, and that will influence gender conformity, but obviously has nothing to do with type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    Just saying, she sounds a lot like what you're describing.

    Your friend came out; you mean as gay, right? If so, I wasn't talking about sexual orientation, and that will influence gender conformity, but obviously has nothing to do with type.
    Neither does childhood gender conformity.
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    All "girl" toys suck. I hated all of them when I was little. Why is something supposed to be more enjoyable if it is pink or has a dress? Why am I only supposed to be excited about dressing up and having children as opposed to having an adventure or actually doing anything? But then I suppose it goes both ways, too, just less so. My younger brother likes a lot of typically "guy" things, but when he was younger, he would love to play with his little baby. Why are toys marketed by gender? Why do things have to be overly manly and overly girly? Why is society so irritating?????

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    Legos always seemed gender-neutral to begin with, anyway. Why do this?

    Have you guys actually taken the time to check out Lego Friends? It makes me want to barf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I think this rocks. Do you think it will actually have an impact on how girls view themselves in terms of career and interests?
    No. I think it's stupid. I would have refused to play with a product reinvented to further reinforce idiotic gender stereotypes in the service of cynical commercialism.
    "You're a girl, only pink Legos for you!" Fuck off, space stations aren't pink. No, I don't want to build a stable for My Little Pony instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyGeek View Post
    All "girl" toys suck. I hated all of them when I was little. Why is something supposed to be more enjoyable if it is pink or has a dress? Why am I only supposed to be excited about dressing up and having children as opposed to having an adventure or actually doing anything? But then I suppose it goes both ways, too, just less so. My younger brother likes a lot of typically "guy" things, but when he was younger, he would love to play with his little baby. Why are toys marketed by gender? Why do things have to be overly manly and overly girly? Why is society so irritating?????
    Why? Because you must be trained to accept your role and ultimate passivity as early as possible. If you are given an endless colour palette early in life, you'll never settle for insipid pink later on. And that would never do.


    Edit. Oh Sweet Lord, I wrote about My Little Pony before I clicked on your link, I swear. I guess it doesn't take a savant to figure out which unimaginative direction they'd take.
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    I just think kids don't play together enough (as in boys and girls). I don't know if it was their choice though. If you left them to themselves, they'd both be riding bikes together or playing with the same games or watching the same movies. I think parents are more gender conscious.

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