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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Oh please. That's not sexual "assault" by any stretch of the imagination.
    Change it to 'sexual misconduct', then. His actions constituted a sexual violation towards hundreds of women. An then there's the blackmail.

    How much jail time do you think the combination of offenses against each victim is worth, anyway? Whatever it is, multiply that by 350, and what do you come up with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post


    See, this is like saying "they were asking for it" with rape, except in this case the women had "FUCK ME NOW" painted all over their naked boobs and were lying legs-up in the street. Or like the time I got in a car accident and the couple in the other vehicle tried to have me charged for endangering their toddler, since he wasn't in a car seat (?!).
    I have a great deal of trouble understanding your reasoning.

    It appears you are saying that lying to someone to get material in private by appearing as someone a person would trust, and then using that material to blackmail them into doing something against their will = the same sort of consent implied by having "'FUCK ME NOW' painted all over their naked boobs and were lying legs-up in the street."

    There is a clear coercive element to his actions.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    Let's put this another way.

    Let's say this guy actually WAS one of their friends. There was no lying, no tricks. And a girl voluntarily chose to send him some pictures.

    Then, she decided she didn't want to send more pictures. What if he took those pictures and told her, "I'm going to post these pictures up in a public way for everyone to see - unless you send me more."

    You might argue whether or not you thought it was a good idea to give him the original pictures to begin with, but that doesn't make his actions any less coercive.

    As an aside, in that case, if the girl looked back and felt like she shouldn't have sent those pictures to begin with, I don't feel like she has recourse for something she voluntarily consented to, though in practice she may request he delete the pictures - something I feel, if asked, is a good thing to do, however I don't think there is an obligation. In addition, if he decided to go posting those pictures up online, I think that's a sleazy move, but since they were sent to him, I'd tend to think they are now technically his at least as much as hers so he can do with them what he wants. Still, a really sleazy thing to do without consent.

    However, the clear line of demarcation is using personal information to coerce someone into doing something against their will. That is the clear violation.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    The sentence is excessive. It sounds like it is to be served consecutively vs. concurrently, the later being the norm. It will be reduced or changed upon appeal.
    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... Some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age. " - H.P. Lovecraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I guess all the porn sites werent enough?
    Our sexuality involves our body and our psyche.

    The Australian Bureau of Statistic (ABS) tells us that almost all women marry up. And so the psyche of women are primed for power relations. So it is no surprise the psyche of men are also primed for power relations. In other words, power relations turn us on, that is, we desire power relations. And blackmail is certainly a power relationship which turned the perpetrator on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Our sexuality involves our body and our psyche.

    The Australian Bureau of Statistic (ABS) tells us that almost all women marry up. And so the psyche of women are primed for power relations. So it is no surprise the psyche of men are also primed for power relations. In other words, power relations turn us on, that is, we desire power relations. And blackmail is certainly a power relationship which turned the perpetrator on.
    Besides blackmail, what kind of power relations (towards women) turn men on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    Besides blackmail, what kind of power relations (towards women) turn men on?
    Well, almost all women marry up, almost all women desire to marry up, and even their mothers desire them to marry up. And by marrying up we create an unequal relationship. And it is this unequal power relationship that turns us on.

    Unfortunately it also leads to domestic violence, one of the most common crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Well, almost all women marry up, almost all women desire to marry up, and even their mothers desire them to marry up. And by marrying up we create an unequal relationship. And it is this unequal power relationship that turns us on.

    Unfortunately it also leads to domestic violence, one of the most common crimes.
    Yeah I was asking about men though. What turns them on. So you're saying women marrying up turns men on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    Yeah I was asking about men though. What turns them on. So you're saying women marrying up turns men on?
    I think unequal power relations turn men and women on.

    There has been much focus on how unequal power relations turn men on, so I am redressing the balance and refocusing on how women are turned on by unequal power relations.

    This opens up some interesting questions, such as, why do women desire unequal power relations but say they want equal power relations; and such as, why do women desire unequal power relations but deny they lead to domestic violence.

    It is an interesting combination of desire and denial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I think unequal power relations turn men and women on.

    There has been much focus on how unequal power relations turn men on, so I am redressing the balance and refocusing on how women are turned on by unequal power relations.
    I am a woman, I know what turns women on. I was asking about men because I wanted to know. I don't recall this being discussed.

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