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    Default Freemasons Associated with Child Abuse

    This has come to my attention in the past couple of years. That children and families in the Freemasons have very high rates of child sexual and ritual abuse, the worst forms of child abuse. I read therapists have been reporting that about 1/3 of their clientele with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) were abused by purported Freemasons.


    Anyone know anything about this? Or want to share about it? I am also taking private, confidential messages/chats about it as well.
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    Denial? Is that why no one is answering me?


    Also, what made me start this was my stumbling upon the Ramsey case again. And the fact that JonBenet was a victim of child abuse, and that her mother was the likely (perhaps inadvertent) killer. I suspect a link to Freemasons somehow, but I haven't been able to turn anything up.
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    Why do you assume everyone is in denial because you don't get a response to a really serious and possibly odd subject in less than ten minutes in the middle of a work day?
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    Because. I just do.


    Why are you being so defensive?
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    "Denial" has nothing to do with anything. Either no one knows anything or no one gives a shit. This forum is pretty dead recently, so there's not a lot of traffic to answer your question.

    For the record, I spent 5 minutes Googling it, came up with no contrary /urban-myth-style opinions, and let it go at that.

    As far as Jon Benet goes, I studied that stupid case with an obsession for the first few years after the crime (books, video interviews, whatever else), and I don't think Patty Ramsey had ANYTHING to do with it. My own assessment mirrors that of Lou Smit, who doggedly chased this case for the first 18 months and, despite believing coming into it that Patty Ramsey did it and John covered up for her, ended up believing they were innocent and it was an outsider. Patty Ramsey could come off as a pompous, opinionated, loud-mouthed, vain blowhard at times, but that didn't make her a murderer or abusive mother.

    Unfortunately, the public backlash against child beauty pageants as well as Patty's own obnoxiousness kind of tried her in the press; people WANTED her to be guilty, it would be the perfect revenge against someone who often made herself unlikeable.

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    Why do you assume everyone is in denial because you don't get a response to a really serious and possibly odd subject in less than ten minutes in the middle of a work day?
    I assume she did it to goad people into responding. And, stupid us, we fell for it.
    I guess we can be played after all.
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    My readings are turning up that she was likely dissociative, borderline, and a sociopath (according to a specialist studying the case), and that the intruder explanation does not fit the case. And that there were signs of ritualistic (and sadomasochistic) abuse with JonBenet's body and in the letter, which the closest handwriting analysis experts linked to her mother.

    No matter. This isn't a thread on JonBenet. I think if mom did it, it likely wasn't her, but an alter of hers. Along with the suspicion linking them to child pornography, and the fact that JonBenet was a victim of sexual abuse (her vagina was twice the size it should have been at 6), it simply made me wonder if there is a link also to the freemasons...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Because. I just do.


    Why are you being so defensive?
    I was raised to be super-polite, so that wasn't actually defensive, it was offensive. I did it because I thought you were behaving unreasonably and it seemed diverting to discover your reason or at least make you aware of how it makes you appear to others (or at least me).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I assume she did it to goad people into responding. And, stupid us, we fell for it.
    I guess we can be played after all.
    I'm not that hard to play.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
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    Okay.


    The Freemasons have quite a reputation for secrets and esoteric religiosity and rituals bordering on, if not satanism, then questionable biblical interpretation. I mean the whole goat/bapomet drawings, symbols etc represent how steeped it is in its own subculture.


    Naturally that, combined with it being pretty old now (and many generations long) lend it the perfect opportunity to hide heinousness. And where heinousness hides, secrets are darkly, and powerfully, held.


    So I can see why denial would be even stronger for those suffering with DID, trauma, or history, at the hands of freemasons. Which is why I nudged in that direction.




    Edit: One person's goading is another's simple nudge...This is heavy stuff. I would think people would love this subject. So when people don't, it actually gives me some clue that this is indeed (possibly) a sticky subject...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    I'm not that hard to play.
    Awww.....
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