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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I think this falls within the case of free speech. Don't you think?
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    I read on "Wikipedia" (the ultimate source of course) that there are around 6,000,000 members around the world. There has got to be a few crazies out of that number but to make an association seems rather farfetched.

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    I just signed up so I could respond to this thread.
    I was repeatedly raped and sexually abused by grandfather as a child. He likewise abused my aunt and cousin and probably many other children.
    He was also a freemason.
    I do not remember much of the abuse due to disassociation as a survival mechanism, and I do not remember if freemason rituals or symbology etc was involved.
    But yeah, I was sexually abused by a freemason.
    I don't have any academic research into freemasonry and child sex abuse, but it stands to reason that being similiar to catholicism in power positions and secrecy that child sex abuse would be fairly easily accomplished in such an environment.
    I also feel the way this topic has been treated on this thread is pretty damn offensive and callous, to be honest. Survivors of sexual abuse are people, not just a theory- I am a person, who has her grandad's dried cum sticking to her ear. This is a very real thing, please treat my suffering and other survivors suffering with respect.

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    It's nice to see a thread like this here.
    Freemasons are a really perverted bunch.
    Look into it... Look up B'nai B'rith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fragmentedfox View Post
    I just signed up so I could respond to this thread.
    I was repeatedly raped and sexually abused by grandfather as a child. He likewise abused my aunt and cousin and probably many other children.
    He was also a freemason.
    I do not remember much of the abuse due to disassociation as a survival mechanism, and I do not remember if freemason rituals or symbology etc was involved.
    But yeah, I was sexually abused by a freemason.
    I don't have any academic research into freemasonry and child sex abuse, but it stands to reason that being similiar to catholicism in power positions and secrecy that child sex abuse would be fairly easily accomplished in such an environment.
    I also feel the way this topic has been treated on this thread is pretty damn offensive and callous, to be honest. Survivors of sexual abuse are people, not just a theory- I am a person, who has her grandad's dried cum sticking to her ear. This is a very real thing, please treat my suffering and other survivors suffering with respect.
    Thank you so much for sharing! I think it's just really, really hard to come out about abuse in general. And even harder to point a finger at such an organization that likely would have wielded much power over those abused as youth. I think more light could be/should be cast on this group if indeed they are causing so much trauma with sexual and ritual abuse as to cause dissociative disorders.

    And even if the generations who are perpetuating the abuse aren't necessarily into the freemasons ideology themselves, it seems significant that the freemasons organization was the breeding ground for future generations of abusers.

    If you care to share more, I encourage you to put it in this thread. It will get picked up by search engines and others who might have suffered the same things can perhaps feel encouraged knowing they are not alone.



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    It's nice to see a thread like this here.
    Freemasons are a really perverted bunch.
    Look into it... Look up B'nai B'rith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fragmentedfox View Post
    I just signed up so I could respond to this thread.
    I was repeatedly raped and sexually abused by grandfather as a child. He likewise abused my aunt and cousin and probably many other children.
    He was also a freemason.
    I do not remember much of the abuse due to disassociation as a survival mechanism, and I do not remember if freemason rituals or symbology etc was involved.
    But yeah, I was sexually abused by a freemason.
    I don't have any academic research into freemasonry and child sex abuse, but it stands to reason that being similiar to catholicism in power positions and secrecy that child sex abuse would be fairly easily accomplished in such an environment.
    I also feel the way this topic has been treated on this thread is pretty damn offensive and callous, to be honest. Survivors of sexual abuse are people, not just a theory- I am a person, who has her grandad's dried cum sticking to her ear. This is a very real thing, please treat my suffering and other survivors suffering with respect.
    Sorry for your horrible experience however:

    That's just one example of someone who abused children who also happened to be a Freemason. There are going to be sick people in nearly every organization. It doesn't necessarily mean that there is a strong link between the Freemasons (as an entity) and child abuse.

    There is a difference between systemic abuse within the organization and abuse coming from an individual who also just happens to be part of the organization (although both instances probably cause the same amount of harm).

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    I have no freaking clue what forces control our power structure, or how deep it goes, but nonetheless, I've seen in documentaries that supposedly our presidents and founding fathers were freemasons. The government does some bad stuff, so it wouldn't surprise me if it has freemasonic origins. I for one would certainly be very uncomfortable with any freemasonic associations, especially with all of these nasty Luciferian conspiracies connected to it. One thing is for sure though, we have a lot of curtains to lift, and a lot of sickness in the world to heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycerine View Post
    Sorry for your horrible experience however:

    That's just one example of someone who abused children who also happened to be a Freemason. There are going to be sick people in nearly every organization. It doesn't necessarily mean that there is a strong link between the Freemasons (as an entity) and child abuse.

    There is a difference between systemic abuse within the organization and abuse coming from an individual who also just happens to be part of the organization (although both instances probably cause the same amount of harm).
    I agree with this. People who are part of a large organization might get more protection from consequences of their actions, though. Which is why I think some abusers seek out the shelter of an organization that they think will protect them if they're ever caught. I don't think this is exclusive to the freemasons- it's just human tribalistic tendencies (to protect those who are like us and handle misconduct within the group rather than handing them over to outsiders) on a large scale. It has happened in large church organizations, the foster care system, elder care institutions, etc.

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