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    This is why I say it sounds like this forum is in denial.

    I don't think this query would get this kind of response anywhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    This is why I say it sounds like this forum is in denial.

    I don't think this query would get this kind of response anywhere else.
    Look, all I'm asking for is, say, an article about the subject. As it is, we're merely discussing your opinion.

    I do not deny that you have this opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I wonder what type, or demographic, would be attracted to the dark side of freemasonry. Would they know it going in, or would they be culled once in? Or would they be selected.
    Rich college frat boys. It appeals to their sense of exclusivity. Their frats are testing grounds for just that. Many move on to masons, and seek industries that promote this exclusivity and faux aristrocacy as well. Even the ones who don't rise to the top still champion it, out of some false hope they'll be at the top one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Also, the Ramseys were just indicted on being collusive to the murderer, if not directly involved.
    Indicting a corpse. That's productive. When will they dig up Patsy's body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Indicting a corpse. That's productive. When will they dig up Patsy's body?
    There's not much left. I think the cancer got most of her.

    There's no motive for collusion either. Kill their daughter, why? Because they supposedly wanted to... what... make money off some pedophile molesting her, but the guy got a little crazy? The psychological profiles don't match that either. As messed up as Patsy was about pageant stuff, I would expect her to fight tooth and nail against anyone who would have harmed or threatened her little girl... not put her in direct harm's way herself. I'm not hearing any reasonable motive there.

    The Grand Jury indicted them for lack of any other intruder at the time and with the case evidence still being developed; and the standard of proof is much lower, there wasn't nearly enough evidence to "try them" in a real live case. The case weakened even further after that.

    Compare that to another famous circumstantial case, like Lacey Peterson; Scott's still on death row for that, as any further evidence only made him look worse.

    Let the dead RIP. That whole family -- what remains of it -- has already been run through the ringer enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Let the dead RIP. That whole family -- what remains of it -- has already been run through the ringer enough.
    I didn't bring it up. Go post that to AGA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    This is why I say it sounds like this forum is in denial.


    There are 75 members currently online. As one of them, I haven't got anything to say on the subject because:

    1.) I don't know anyone who is a freemason
    2.) I don't have any material to reference
    3.) I've not heard anyone posit your opinion before
    4.) I'm not aware of any research done on the subject either

    So, instead of assuming denial, how about just - no data?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bologna View Post
    Look, all I'm asking for is, say, an article about the subject. As it is, we're merely discussing your opinion.

    I do not deny that you have this opinion.

    I figure you can google it as good as I can.



    Meh, I don't see frat boys at your typical child molester/freemason, unless they are just perpetuating what was done to them. I think it's more a family thing. Family network thing, probably related in some way, even if distant. Families would explain the secrecy as well.



    @Jennifer My feeling is that it was a ritualistic sadistic ceremony gone awry. By someone they knew. Don't know about the DNA stuff. Maybe her mother planted DNA stuff from someone else...Who knows. We do know she was a victim of sexual abuse, so her family was probably guilty of that, because it's usually a family member....and if they were guilty of that (or knew about it), then it follows they also knew the perp, if not one of them. Maybe it was a boy, working with the mom. Who knows.
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    The only ones who seems to not be defensive are KDude and Bologna.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    The only ones who seems to not be defensive are KDude and Bologna.
    I don't see the other folks who responded as being defensive. To me, they just seemed slightly annoyed.

    I agree with Cafe & Jennifer - 1 hour passes with no reply and you've think you've hit a secret hot button?

    Possible but doubtful.
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