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    Quote Originally Posted by LevelZeroHero View Post
    I don't believe the big oil conspiracy control myth for a second. Any inventor smart enough to come up with something like that would know it's worth more than what they'd be offering them and would take extra precautions to protect themselves and their discovery if they had something that actually was so revolutionary... and we have never seen the the product of such a thing. That's because it has never happened. This isn't communist Russia.
    It is only a myth because it is inherently true of most companies, after all, they would not be lobbying like any other company otherwise. And if the oil companies weren't lobbying, they be sure to go down under.

    In the past, RRs would buy out competing transportation. If people created maritime transport because it was cheaper, the RR companies would buy it out.

    In the present, telephone and cable companies of today and zoning. Do you know about zoning? Yes, that is one of the flat out cases where control is allowed and called for.

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    Buying out competition is not in the same league of shadiness, though. Maritime transport is not a new invention. We're talking about some kind of revolutionary new design that transcends competition to a point that companies would resort to extreme measures to prevent it's success.

    Lobbyists, on the other hand, only show that big companies are under the the thumb of the government and public collective at some point which is why they have lobbyists to gain leverage... that's where the playing field is. Not some back alley wet works where you'd get mysteriously knocked off once you invent something amazing.

    Perhaps that exists, but again I think anyone smart enough to design such a thing would be well versed in their industry and therefore well aware of how it must be protected... if it worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasoline View Post
    that moving in that direction for energy would be met with strong opposition, like violence, death threats from people like the koch brothers?
    Are the Kochs known for their death threats and violence?
    “Some people will tell you that slow is good – but I’m here to tell you that fast is better. I’ve always believed this, in spite of the trouble it’s caused me. Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba…”


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    Quote Originally Posted by gasoline View Post
    that moving in that direction for energy would be met with strong opposition, like violence, death threats from people like the koch brothers?
    No. The simple fact is that for cars and engines, oil and gas are the most efficient, cost effective, environmentally friendly fuel to date. Now while we could switch to nuclear power, which is more efficient, it would require faith from the populace in nuclear technology and electric cars, which do not behave well in cold weather.

    Until someone figures out fusion power, we are stuck with the options above. Wind, solar, geothermal, and biofuels are definitely not effective as oil for energy. It isn't just big oil companies that give these renewable energies a bad rap. They really just don't work as good as they say.

    The real solution is just to use less oil until someone figures out something better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil P View Post
    No. The simple fact is that for cars and engines, oil and gas are the most efficient, cost effective, environmentally friendly fuel to date. Now while we could switch to nuclear power, which is more efficient, it would require faith from the populace in nuclear technology and electric cars, which do not behave well in cold weather.

    Until someone figures out fusion power, we are stuck with the options above. Wind, solar, geothermal, and biofuels are definitely not effective as oil for energy. It isn't just big oil companies that give these renewable energies a bad rap. They really just don't work as good as they say.

    The real solution is just to use less oil until someone figures out something better
    Combustion engines did not behave well either until a way was figured out to make them do so (antifreeze and oil that does not thicken too much when cold yet also does not thin to much when hot) We're not even talking about decreased mileage, the things would not even run at all if it weren't for these innovations.

    Just saying.

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    Also a combustion generator linked to an electric traction motor can be more efficient than a combustion engine alone (and also more powerful)
    Ships use electric driven thrusters powered by diesel generators. Trains use electric traction motors powered by diesel generators. Two story high giant dump trucks use traction motors powered by diesel generators. And now delivery trucks and buses use them too, in some places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Combustion engines did not behave well either until a way was figured out to make them do so (antifreeze and oil that does not thicken too much when cold yet also does not thin to much when hot) We're not even talking about decreased mileage, the things would not even run at all if it weren't for these innovations.

    Just saying.
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    "Renewable" energy sources should have had enough time and money by now to figure out if there were any general fixes like radiators that would make them better. And while they have improved, they are still not suitable to supply a large portion of the US's energy needs. I believe windmills will never work as power generators because: the wind is too variable and the variable motion wears out parts too fast.

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