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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I stand by what Jesus said:

    If your eye causes you to sin, poke it out. If a hand causes you to sin, cut if off.....



    ....If you're testosterone causes you to sin, remove it.
    How will the world run without women though? We need a better world, but good cannot be separated from evil, so if you want women to be bred men will possibly come instead.

    And so what should you remove from yourself? If you look simply at sin, and you want to remove sin, don't remove the arm, remove the person. It's the one that sinned, an arm has no control of itself.

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    Some thoughts:

    1) Howard Bloom stated in his book, "The Lucifer Principle", that genetically speaking men are disposable and thus this is why in all major wars, they are the ones who die in vast mind boogling numbers. So I suppose, in a coldly biological way, men aren't as necessary as we're the ones working so hard to kill each other and yet our world continues to populate

    2) The last three women I was involved with were all emotionally stunted manipulators who repeatedly took advantage of my kindness and walked all over me. They walked all over me because, ultimately, I let them. While it is tempting sometimes to develop and nurse an equally unfavorable view of women that you have deliberately chosen to take on about men, I at least am fortunate enough to be capable of realizing how horrifically stupid it is to take my own personal experiences and project them onto the whole world (something which ISFJs are often of accused of doing, ironically) as you appear to be doing.

    The ultimate lesson I have taken away from my experiences is that if I am with a partner who is not treating me as I deserve, it is because I allow that to happen and I do not feel that I deserve better. As has been said in this thread already, like attracts like. Instead of projecting your anger outward, consider how much of your situation, your life, and your feelings of are your own construction.

    Not to say that you deserved to be betrayed, nobody deserves that. But I have to wonder, what sort of partners do you tend to choose?

    3) Good men and good women are out there. If you're not seeing them, it's because you're choosing to overlook them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinker683 View Post

    3) Good men and good women are out there. If you're not seeing them, it's because you're choosing to overlook them.
    Great post, especially this part. The number of good men in my acquaintance vastly outnumbers the bums. That's my anecdotal evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I stand by what Jesus said:

    If your eye causes you to sin, poke it out. If a hand causes you to sin, cut if off.....



    ....If you're testosterone causes you to sin, remove it.
    AphroditeGoneAwry causes me to sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I stand by what Jesus said:

    If your eye causes you to sin, poke it out. If a hand causes you to sin, cut if off.....
    Does this mean that eyes and hands make their own decisions or was he being metaphorical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Thoughts?

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    If there were a real incidence of men being more unworthy than women statistically, and I pointed it out, claiming that it is because I'm jaded is clearly an ad hominem attack.

    This has nothing to do with the reality in my life that men have been dicks to me....It's more that I've lived long enough now to become conscious of it>that it really isn't just my reality, but that it might really be reality, if you look to the things I said in the OP and look at the men and women in your own lives, my anecdotal evidence notwithstanding. Though I do tend to surround myself with strong, good women, I still find the same phenomenon in my work, though perhaps the women slag off a little bit there...making the ratio of good men to good women more like 2.5:5 versus 1.5:5.


    @Nicodemus how do i cause you to sin pray tell.



    This overall thread reminds me of how people here also don't validate parental involvement in child abuse. Leading me to believe we either have some seriously repressed individuals, or we have bad abusive men who don't want to fess up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Does this mean that eyes and hands make their own decisions or was he being metaphorical?
    I think it's clear. If you cannot stop lying, cut out your fucking tongue. If you cannot stop cheating with porn, poke out your eye, if you cannot stop molesting children, do away with your testosterone.

    What will happen to women and the species? Leave the good males to impregnate women and perpetuate the species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I think it's clear. If you cannot stop lying, cut out your fucking tongue.
    I'm just going to come right out and say it. Sign language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    @Nicodemus how do i cause you to sin pray tell.
    You put ideas in my mind, dangerous, murderous, sinful ideas. So far I have only sinned in thought, but, come nightfall, true evil may unfold.

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