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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    They aren't the first.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Exactly. This is what I was referring to when I called them a money-making scheme under the guise of being a church.


    It's described in the court document I linked at the bottom of the 1st post.

    Details on some of the church founder/leader's "business exploits" are described throughout, but much of it can be found in

    Chapter 6: The Law of Wrath - "Fred Phelps starts to use the Court system to his advantage. Like the energizer bunny he just keeps suing."

    Chapter 5: The Children's Crusade - "Where Fred Phelps decides that a little child shall lead them. His little children. On his behalf. And just where is the money raised going?"

    & Chapter 9: The False Prophet - "When Fred Phelps has to stop beating his family into submission and his legal bully pulpit abilities are limited by the loss of his license to practice law."
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    2011 sequel to the 2006 documentary Phobik posted on the bottom of the 1st page.. just figured I'd add it.
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    As an American, I absolutely will not take down this group

    Fuck off

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    “He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.”
    ― Thomas Paine

    I hate what they do, but they have the right to do it.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
    ~ John Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    As an American, I absolutely will not take down this group

    Fuck off
    Duly noted.

    Perhaps you'd like to expound on your reasoning, as others have, on their posts.
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    To quote a man for all seasons:

    William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
    Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
    William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
    Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    Duly noted.

    Perhaps you'd like to expound on your reasoning, as others have, on their posts.
    I want this group to exist, they serve this country in a way that no other group can

    To take them down might invite another group to take their place, but this isn't important

    What is important is that they serve to identify Americans who believe in America and Americans who hate America

    Every month or so, this group ignites discussion that quickly reveals which of us hate the constitution and which of us support free association, provocative speech, and toleration of beliefs we do not hold ourselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    I hate what they do, but they have the right to do it.
    Yeah, I'm not saying necessarily we need to take away their right to assembly, but at least examine their tax exempt status. I think @Edgar did a good job explaining why they sort of don't fit in that category- though I do agree with @LEGERdeMAIN that I see no reason for certain organizations to be tax exempt in the first place. While they are, though, I figure we might as well evaluate whether or not this group even truly falls within that category of the current system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    Yeah, I'm not saying necessarily we need to take away their right to assembly, but at least examine their tax exempt status.
    What do you hope to find? What would you do if you found it?

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