Originally Posted by JenniferOriginally Posted by Lark
Sounds like your only real investment here has been the assumption, "People don't actually want to do it, or it would be fixed by now."
Not exactly. To make a comparison, maybe like in the movie "Titanic," people don't realize the boat is actually sinking yet, so people have just been biding their time; but hopefully it's become more and more obvious in the last few years; and at some point, you do what you have to do to plug the leaks, once you realize you're going under, when hell breaks loose. The survival instinct motivates people like nothing else.
There are also people who need to see details before they can get a sense of a plan, and otherwise they'll stonewall. So you have to make a test case of some sort.
As a side note, I didn't ask Cafe for a spreadsheet and she actually engaged the issue with some ideas. It wasn't much to ask.
All you had to say was, "I'm just shooting off the cuff, don't mind me," and I would have happily moved along.