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    Default Let's talk about Sheriff Joe Arpaio

    Like him? Hate him?

    I saw this posted on facebook by some group page:

    For those not familiar with Joe Arpio, he is the County Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona. He keeps getting re-elected over and over again.

    These are some of the reasons why:

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the "tent city jail" to save Arizona from spending tens of millions of dollars on another expensive prison complex.Inmates sleep in tents!

    He has jail meals down to 20 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.

    He banned smoking and pornographic magazines in the jails, and took away their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but "G" movies. He says: "They're in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can assault innocent people when they leave."


    He started chain gangs to use the inmates to do free work on county and city projects and save taxpayer's money. Men work in Pink "Clean and Sober" Shirts. Their underwear is also Pink!


    Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.

    He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only allows the Disney channel and the weather channel.

    When asked why the weather channel, he replied: "So these morons will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs."

    He cut off coffee because it has zero nutritional value and is therefore a waste of taxpayer money. When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."

    He also bought the Newt Gingrich lecture series on US history that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series that actually tells the truth for a change would be welcome and that it might even explain why 95% of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.

    With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record for June 2nd 2009), the Associated Press reported: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed wire surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.


    On the Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing pink boxer shorts were overheard chatting in the tents, where temperatures reached 128 degrees."This is hell. It feels like we live in a furnace," said Ernesto Gonzales, an inmate for 2 years with 10 more to go. "It's inhumane."

    Joe Arpaio, who makes his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. "Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for parole, only to go out and commit more crimes so they can come back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things many taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves."

    The same day he told all the inmates who were complaining of the heat in the tents: "It's between 120 to 130 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents there too, and they have to walk all day in that sun, wearing full battle gear and getting shot at, and THEY have not committed any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!"

    Sheriff Joe was just re-elected for the fourteenth time as Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona.

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    just another one of many reasons not to go to arizona.

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    The most disturbing part of that story is the Newt Gingrich lecture series bit.
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    I wouldn't want to be the one responsible for watching his back.
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    Do his methods reduce recidivism?
    Would that result justify the systemic pursuit of vituperative punishments?
    Is the denial of pleasure during incarceration related to recidivism?
    Authoritarians tend not to ask these questions. they prefer to find an old book and double-down on it's prescriptions, and this methodology is seldom concerned with rehabilitation.
    I'll stay way from Arizona.

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    its a bit unsettling.

    because you have prisons that prosper and are dependent on the incarceration of people and from whats been pointed out is, that there are contracts with the state that 90% of the facility is to be occupied to receive funding and so you might have these institutions trying to pushing to criminalize lesser things like smoking pot which is much different from killing someone, and other small things that may guarantee an constant stream of people.

    and so you are going to have people going to jail suffering over innocent or minor crimes, living in conditions joe has set up, or worst yet, you will have people who did not commit any crime, did not do anything, living in these situations. its bad enough, they have this on their record, they lost a good portion of their life and when they get out, they are going to be disenfranchised, is it really a better solution to make them suffer more, and make it so they end up returning back to prison.

    i cant just say yea, this is awesome. gotta think about the world we are creating tomorrow with the things you agree with and allow to continue today. its an experiment that needs to end


    i think another thing to note, is racism and hate. people consciously incriminating others because their skin color.

    i dont hate him, it sounds like he watched plenty of spaghetti westerns as a child.

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    I think he gets a sick sort of satisfaction from what he does and for that reason alone should not be allowed to continue. It's more about resentment than trying to make Arizona a better state.
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    If it works better than the standard system, I see no problem with it. If it doesn't work better than the standard system, do away with it. I really don't get what the problem is, but then again, I'm a person who believes that more crimes should carry the death penalty, so I'm apparently unlike most of you on this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post
    If it works better than the standard system, I see no problem with it. If it doesn't work better than the standard system, do away with it. I really don't get what the problem is, but then again, I'm a person who believes that more crimes should carry the death penalty, so I'm apparently unlike most of you on this forum.
    punishment should be proportionate to crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasoline View Post
    punishment should be proportionate to crime?
    Yes, but the correctly proportionate punishment is subjective.
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