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    Thanks for keeping it real Politico:

    Poll: More want less immigration

    Americans want fewer people immigrating to the country, a new survey shows.

    According to a Gallup poll released Friday, 22 percent of those polled favor increased immigration, while 33 percent would like to see it remain at the present level and a plurality, 41 percent and nearly double the amount of those who favor increased immigration, believe it should be decreased. Four percent had no opinion.

    The aversion towards increased immigration crosses partisan lines, with a majority of both Republicans and Independents answering that they would prefer decreased levels of immigration. Only a small fraction, 14 percent, of Republicans said that they would prefer an increase in immigration. The majority of Democrats polled said that they would prefer immigration to stay at its present level.

    While numbers supporting increased immigration are low, the support for that approach has been on a steady rise since 1999, when only 10 percent of Americans said they prefer an increase.

    But despite the desire to decrease immigration, the majority of those polled said that they view immigration as being a good thing for the country. Sixty-three percent of Americans polled by Gallup said that immigration was a positive force, while 33 percent shared negative feelings towards immigration. A positive view on immigration was felt mainly by Democrats. Seventy-two percent of Democrats said they felt that immigration was a good thing for the United States as well as 63 percent of Independents and 55 percent of Republicans.

    The Gallup poll was conducted from June 5 to 8 between 1,027 adults and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

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    The foreign policy winds are changing my friends.

    From the Wall Street Journal:

    More Republicans Line Up With Rand Paul’s Foreign Policy Views

    An excerpt...

    Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul might be onto something.

    For all the hand-wringing about whether his foreign-policy views could disqualify him from winning the Republican presidential nomination, recent polls suggest his skepticism about foreign entanglements might not be quite so out of step with GOP voters.

    As troubles mount overseas, the Republicans’ once-steadfast support for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has crumbled since President Barack Obama was sworn in for a second term, according to the results of a June Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll and a related Journal/NBC/Annenberg Survey.

    In the latest Journal poll of 1,000 adults, conducted June 11-15, 58% of the Republican respondents said the war in Afghanistan wasn’t worth it, compared with the 37% who said it was. That’s an abrupt shift from January 2013, when just 37% of Republicans said the war wasn’t worth it. The Annenberg survey conducted days later found similar erosion in views about Iraq.

    Peter Hart, the Democratic pollster who runs the Annenberg Survey, said the slide among Republicans helps explain why Americans as a whole view the war in Iraq less positively than they did 18 months earlier because GOP voters traditionally supported the U.S. invasion and the resulting occupation, while Democrats opposed it.

    “Now, the Republicans have shifted to the negative side,” said Mr. Hart, who also helps conduct the Journal poll with Democrat Fred Yang and Republican Bill McInturff.

    These deteriorating numbers for both wars coincide with a growing belief in the country as a whole that the U.S. should shrink from the world stage, as Iraq erupts in sectarian violence, tensions simmer in Ukraine and a civil war grinds on in Syria. For years, the wars were in Iraq and Afghanistan were a polarizing issue, “but now there’s a surprisingly level of agreement,” said Micah Roberts, a Republican who helps conduct the Journal poll.

    Other polls have shown Republicans losing their taste for foreign engagements. In an April Journal poll, a plurality of Republicans said the U.S. should be less active in world affairs, 45%-29%.

    Longstanding discontent with Mr. Obama could be fueling much of this drift, given Republicans’ anger with the president on a range of foreign-policy matters, from the 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya, to the latest wave of violence in Iraq. Republicans expressed similar skepticism about engaging in foreign conflicts during Bill Clinton‘s presidency, according to Journal polls from the mid-1990s.

    Mr. Paul has set himself apart from other Republicans expected to pursue the party’s presidential nomination in 2016 by advocating restraint on the world stage. He recently blamed the war in Iraq for this latest flare-up in violence, provoking a sharp rebuttal from former Vice President Dick Cheney.

    Recent surveys suggest Republicans as a whole are far less hawkish than they were under former President George W. Bush. In the June Annenberg Survey of 1,383 Americans, 46% of Republicans said the war in Iraq wasn’t worth it, compared with the 44% who said it was.

    The numbers on Afghanistan were even more pronounced. The slide among tea-party supporters was more dramatic than the slippage among Republicans as a whole, with 63% saying the war in Afghanistan wasn’t worth it, compared with the 39% who held that view in January of 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Thanks for your contribution to debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
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    Which journal would you like me to quote from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Which journal would you like me to quote from?
    One that explains things with words and not pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    One that explains things with words and not pictures.
    But pictures say more than a thousand words.

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    Friends With Benefits

    Rand Paul and Cory Booker’s convenient bromance.



    The more time goes by, my pick of Paul in '16 is looking better and better.

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    There is no future for Republicans within a socialist America.
    Those that love freedom will either fight to turn the tide against socialism or they'll be driven from their own country lest they suffer genocide.

    A brief opinion that cuts to the chase.
    The America Republic -vs- Socialist America

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    The sky hasn't fallen yet. Despite others' protestations, I remain dubious on the prospect.

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