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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Is Glenn Beck normally this crazy?



    if we are going to start with new regulations, how about making it illegal for broadcasting misinformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasoline View Post
    if we are going to start with new regulations, how about making it illegal for broadcasting misinformation.
    YAY! No more radio or TV in America!

    (Well, aside from Discovery Channel and Tru TV.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    We're going to be fine.

    More to the point, I would think it would be more appropriate for a Republican to start this discussion.
    What's up with all this crazy talk out there now about splitting off and making a more conservative party? (Herman Cain and others.)

    They're getting lots of play. I'm inclined to just see it all as blowing off steam, rather than serious, and they won't actually jump ship because they realize how crazy that would be politically for them.

    What are your thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasoline View Post
    if we are going to start with new regulations, how about making it illegal for broadcasting misinformation.
    As ridiculous as Glenn Beck is, I am totally opposed this. To do this, you would have to make the government the arbiter of what is and what isn't misinformation, and that's not a path we should follow. On top of that, censoring Beck would give him exactly what he wants, martyr status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    As ridiculous as Glenn Beck is, I am totally opposed this. To do this, you would have to make the government the arbiter of what is and what isn't misinformation, and that's not a path we should follow. On top of that, censoring Beck would give him exactly what he wants, martyr status.
    nah, it just creates another way for the state to make money, they don`t have to watch every thing but when they do come across something, they can cash in

    no, actually it would not make him a mytrr, it would force him to be honest...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasoline View Post
    nah, it just creates another way for the state to make money, they don`t have to watch every thing but when they do come across something, they can cash in

    no, actually it would not make him a mytrr, it would force him to be honest...
    Are you trolling or are you serious? I'm not sure. What you're suggesting is pretty outrageous and would basically be the end of the first amendment.
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    They're just pissed right now. They'll probably come back with someone cray cray the likes of Santorum next time, even though they should probably start thinking about ditching the social conservatism schtick so that it won't be a problem for them (since the social issues seem to be a sticking point, and I think indicates culture change that's not going away.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    (since the social issues seem to be a sticking point, and I think indicates culture change that's not going away.)
    It depends on the issue, and the extremity of the position: support for gun rights and (to a lesser extent) opposition to abortion in most circumstances have actually increased in recent years, alongside increased support for gay marriage and drug legalization.

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    Here are the unaccountable reasons I've heard from Republicans for why the Republicans lost.

    The problem is that the liberal media fixed it for Obama (patently delusional).
    The democrats somehow manipulated election results (Somehow even more delusional).
    The problem is that Mitt Romney was an awful candidate (this doesn't explain the senate, which was the worst area of performance for the Republicans, or address the fact that all of his primary challengers were worse).
    The problem is that a lot of the senators were awful candidates (this is said as if systematically producing awful candidates indicates no problem).
    The problem is that Republicans weren't conservative enough (easy seats were lost by arch-conservative candidates, Romney only had a chance in the polls after dashing for the center)
    Republicans were not meaningfully defeated anyhow (yes, I've heard some people throw that out there. I can't see how this is interpreted as anything other than defeat, but in spite of two year long boasts about how easily Republicans would take over the government in 2012, apparently losing seats in the Senate, House, and the White House by a hefty vote total is not a defeat, so Republicans don't need to re-evaluate anything).

    I was hoping against hope that they'd learn a lesson, but I'm already a lot less hopeful than I was the night of the election.

    To actually have a future, Republicans must make a big, concerted effort to stop scaring away blacks, latinos. Romney had a 20% lead amongst whites and managed to lose, and with each year a 20% lead amongst white will translate to fewer votes. Likewise, they should stop scaring women, and to that end they should never bring up sex or female biology again. They managed to lose two, two shoo-in senate seats by bringing those things up. And as it happens, apparently a majority of Americans want higher taxes.

    A notable thing about this election was how candidates backed by the Tea Party (either this year or during a previous election) sucked. The Tea Partiers were losers to a degree beyond the Republican average. It's time to let them go.
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