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  • I am in favor. Think of the good for society, advance of science, etc

    2 22.22%
  • I am in favor but only in specific cases (please state)

    4 44.44%
  • I am neutral/unsure

    0 0%
  • I am opposed it is too murky and fraught with peril though not necessarily inherently wrong

    2 22.22%
  • )I am opposed. I believe it is morally wrong/evil or reminiscent of Nazism

    1 11.11%
  • I would want this for my own children.

    3 33.33%
  • I would not want this for my own children.

    1 11.11%
  • Other (please state in thread)

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    Cool Genetically engineering 'ethical' babies



    Professor Julian Savulescu said that creating so-called designer babies could be considered a "moral obligation" as it makes them grow up into "ethically better children".

    The expert in practical ethics said that we should actively give parents the choice to screen out personality flaws in their children as it meant they were then less likely to "harm themselves and others".

    The academic, who is also editor-in-chief of the Journal of Medical Ethics, made his comments in an article in the latest edition of Reader's Digest.

    He explained that we are now in the middle of a genetic revolution and that although screening, for all but a few conditions, remained illegal it should be welcomed.

    He said that science is increasingly discovering that genes have a significant influence on personality – with certain genetic markers in embryo suggesting future characteristics.

    By screening in and screening out certain genes in the embryos, it should be possible to influence how a child turns out.

    In the end, he said that "rational design" would help lead to a better, more intelligent and less violent society in the future.

    "Surely trying to ensure that your children have the best, or a good enough, opportunity for a great life is responsible parenting?" wrote Prof Savulescu, the Uehiro Professor in practical ethics.

    "So where genetic selection aims to bring out a trait that clearly benefits an individual and society, we should allow parents the choice.

    "To do otherwise is to consign those who come after us to the ball and chain of our squeamishness and irrationality.

    "Indeed, when it comes to screening out personality flaws, such as potential alcoholism, psychopathy and disposition to violence, you could argue that people have a moral obligation to select ethically better children.

    "They are, after all, less likely to harm themselves and others."

    "If we have the power to intervene in the nature of our offspring — rather than consigning them to the natural lottery — then we should."

    He said that we already routinely screen embryos and foetuses for conditions such as cystic fibrosis and Down’s syndrome and couples can test embryos for inherited bowel and breast cancer genes.

    Rational design is just a natural extension of this, he said.

    He said that unlike the eugenics movements, which fell out of favour when it was adopted by the Nazis, the system would be voluntary and allow parents to choose the characteristics of their children.

    "We’re routinely screening embryos and foetuses for conditions such as cystic fibrosis and Down’s syndrome, and there’s little public outcry," he said.

    "What’s more, few people protested at the decisions in the mid- 2000s to allow couples to test embryos for inherited bowel and breast cancer genes, and this pushes us a lot close to creating designer humans."

    "Whether we like it or not, the future of humanity is in our hands now. Rather than fearing genetics, we should embrace it. We can do better than chance."




    Do you think the time has come to begin genetically engineering children to get rid of genetic flaws like being prone to a particular disease/condition? What about height, eye color, etc? What about personality characteristics? What social ills could be alleviated/created by research/activity like this?
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    No, the time hasn't come. We don't understand genetics and its interplay with environment well enough yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UniqueMixture View Post

    Do you think the time has come to begin genetically engineering children to get rid of genetic flaws like being prone to a particular disease/condition? What about height, eye color, etc? What about personality characteristics? What social ills could be alleviated/created by research/activity like this?
    I'm for genetic engineering if it means avoiding certain diseases like cystic fibrosis.

    I'm oppposed to genetic engineering for particular personality characteristics. Having a diversity is good. Even some of the apparently "bad" characteristics can be had a positive side when looked at from another angle. Just because someone has a personality type that makes them prone to addictions doesn't necessarily mean they will become a become an alcoholic. Besides, I see alcoholism as a disease rather than a personality trait.
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    No, I am not in favor of genetically choosing personality traits at all. It could turn out to be a real bad idea, it makes me think of the scifi movie Gattaca.

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    I think we should focus on traits that can't be naturally selected in normal circumstances, particularly diseases that hit late in life. As for personality traits, that sounds like a pipe dream due to variations in gene expression, our limited understanding of genealogy (ie, what else does that gene do), and the impossibility of determining which traits are universally desirable or dysfunctional.

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    I'd been in favor of correcting various diseases.

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    Who in their right mind isn't in favor of this when it's in terms of diseases?

    As for sex, eye color, etc...no.

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