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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I have no doubt our devout Christians would insinuate or just explicitly declare that those men are charlatans and not people of real faith. For the devout religion is all encompassing, and religion is the most important thing to live up to, and a person who picks and chooses when to push religious values must be someone who doesn't believe religion is all encompassing, meaning he or she has failed to do the most important thing by living up to the religion.
    That and there are numerous instances in the bible where God smote the entire nation on account of a naughty king. Which means that if the leaders are disobedient to God then even the devout are punished for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeitlikethat View Post
    Mitt Romney's a joke.

    He came to London during the 2012 Olympic games, annouced that the UK is small and builds small cars that no one wants to buy then fucked off to Poland for a week...
    Well, technically he did not say that but rather wrote that a few years ago in his book; No Apology: The Case for American Greatness. In which he wrote the following

    ''England [sic] is just a small island. Its roads and houses are small. With few exceptions, it doesn't make things that people in the rest of the world want to buy. And if it hadn't been separated from the continent by water, it almost certainly would have been lost to Hitler's ambitions. Yet only two lifetimes ago, Britain ruled the largest and wealthiest empire in the history of humankind. Britain controlled a quarter of the earth's land and a quarter of the earth's population.''

    For what it is worth, Romney is not anti-British but rather a bit politically unsophisticated. The same can not be said for for Obama as he really does have some kind of complex with Britain. Seriously, Obama's Presidency is littered with insults towards Britain; from days after taking office when he sent the bust of Winston Churchill back, siding with Argentina over the Falkland Islands, his laughable DVD gift to Gordon Brown, and Obama administration’s relentless campaign against BP after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.
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    Narcissism, plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bologna View Post
    I'm surprised that something like this hasn't been posted yet:




    Romney, Pakistan supports you. Not, like, all the way, but maybe about 60%-ish out of those who actually care?
    I'm kinda surprised at the results in Malaysia, but then I'm probably more socially liberal than most over here. More amusing is that 60% doesn't care at all to answer... unless they support Johnson or Stein
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    Quote Originally Posted by bologna View Post
    I'm surprised that something like this hasn't been posted yet:




    Romney, Pakistan supports you. Not, like, all the way, but maybe about 60%-ish out of those who actually care?
    Where's Speed? I imagine he might be one of those Francais who would support Romney over Obama.
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    Speaking of uninformed electorates, I found this exchange from the 538 blog. Not saying that many voters are like this, but you have to wonder...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bologna View Post
    I'm surprised that something like this hasn't been posted yet:




    Romney, Pakistan supports you. Not, like, all the way, but maybe about 60%-ish out of those who actually care?
    So..... do the ones near the bottom vote third party a lot?

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    Canadian who recently lived in America here too, chiming in.

    Mitt Romney represents nearly every negative trait and/or stereotype that America gets a bad rap for in the world. I won't list them, he just fits the bill so trust me on that. It's no wonder that the world's preference is President Obama.

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    I find America's politics to be pretty alien, because it's so right leaning and concerned about issues that have been dead and buried here for 40 years. NZ is a left-leaning nation and our governing centre-right party is probably closer to the Democrats (and I'm way more of a lefty than that).
    Agreed. I see Canada similarly. Our right here looks practically centre-left in comparison.

    I have nothing against moderate Republicans, but man, the extreme fraction is really bringing the US down IMO. Moderates I can disagree with, but the hardcore conservatives are just insane. How can there be any meaningful discourse or progress made with such people.
    Agreed. I think this polarity hurts the US so much. It's endemic to a 2 party system.

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    An American friend of mine tells me how frustrated she is at how little is in the news and newspapers about world events - she says even the NYTimes is terrible in this regard. As someone who has lived overseas on and off for years, she's really uncomfortable about how cut off she is from the rest of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    ...when I switched on cable news in the evening, or tuned into local radio in the morning, it was baffling. Where is the fucking news? why dont they tell me THE NEWS?! what is this shit about a pig fair?? I was dumb-founded by the ignorance of the average man on the street. That and the racial segregation. Just a very different, very backward world. I encountered more enlightened thinking in a Ugandan village than in Kansas.
    This shocked me too when we lived in the US. I turned on the local news shortly after our relocation and the top news stories were a man cutting his lawn in the snow and a boy who got his tongue stuck on a pole. No joke. You just hear nothing about the rest of the world, heck, you don't even really hear what's happening locally. It's like bubble gum instead of steak.

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    At any rate, I would vote for Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    This shocked me too when we lived in the US. I turned on the local news shortly after our relocation and the top news stories were a man cutting his lawn in the snow and a boy who got his tongue stuck on a pole. No joke. You just hear nothing about the rest of the world, heck, you don't even really hear what's happening locally. It's like bubble gum instead of steak.
    Corporate media, ratings (money) are all that matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    The global recession hasn't yet reached your shores ?


    Yes, this affects me, but America can't be entirely blamed for that, anyway.

    I didn't mean things like that, I mean more of the day to day decision-making and issues: gay marriage, health care and gun control etc. I meant that while I have strong opinions on these matters, what America does with regards to them isn't going to have a huge influence on my country and my life.

    "Actively discouraged" makes it sound like a conspiracy. "Not actively encouraged" might be a better description, perhaps... I dunno. This seems to be an organic process, an oversight, rather than something more sinister, like say, Chinese State censorship. But perhaps that's what we're supposed to think? I mean how does one create a sense of unity betwen 51 disparate states other than by emphasising separateness from the rest of the world? The Republican Party rhetoric of recent years has certainly played on the idea that America is besieged by enemies and used that to compromise liberties at home and abroad.
    Maybe it was overstating it, but I would say that claiming, "America is the greatest country in the world" and other such thinking, is an active discouragement of openness to foreign ideas and approaches to things (when it is coupled with America's other xenophobia issues - this statement seems to be less about patriotism and more about, "we're better than everyone else", or even, "thank god I don't live in your stupid country").

    But then, I haven't really travelled or lived in the US and am only receiving second and third hand information - so I don't wish to push that point too hard

    I think that's already happened. Travelling to the US, especially Hicksville, but even the likes of New York, is like travelling back in time.
    Even New York? I hear plenty about the problems of Middle America and how backward it is from my coastal American friends, but as not much about backwardness on the coasts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Corporate media, ratings (money) are all that matters.
    As it happens, Henry Milner's research on civic literacy found that one of the things is most strongly correlated with was the role of public broadcasting.
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