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  • Obama wins both.

    17 54.84%
  • Romney wins both.

    2 6.45%
  • Obama wins the electoral college and Romney wins the popular vote.

    11 35.48%
  • Romney wins the electoral college and Obama wins the popular vote.

    1 3.23%
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    @Jennifer
    I would have had the same fear had Romney been elected based on his ever changing campaign promises.
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    @Jennifer
    I would have had the same fear had Romney been elected based on his ever changing campaign promises.
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    Nice article about Nate Silver, since he called all 50 states correctly, while going against the conventional pundit wisdom of the time.

    The article was written last night; since then, the popular vote percentage has crept much closer to his prediction of 2.5% (I think I've seen it at about 2.2%). He didn't call Ohio as tightly as it was (I think he said it would be 4.0%, vs the 1.5-2% it ended up being), but some of his calls there (PA) were right on the money.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13510_3-57...of-the-quants/

    As a fellow analyst of sorts, I gotta WOOT the guy, and then for just going with what made sense to him instead of bowing to pressure.

    One of the guys on INTPc ended up betting $500 on four different election bets, based on Silver's projections, and he won them all, making about $425 in the process.

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    meanwhile... wow. Here we go already:
    http://news.yahoo.com/race-2016-star...-politics.html

    Honestly, in four years, no one knows who will be around. Hillary was a big deal for the Dems in 2004, then Obama kind of came from nowhere and passed her during the primaries in 2007-2008.

    You just have no idea who might drop out and who might join the party in the next three years or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Nice article about Nate Silver, since he called all 50 states correctly, while going against the conventional pundit wisdom of the time.

    The article was written last night; since then, the popular vote percentage has crept much closer to his prediction of 2.5% (I think I've seen it at about 2.2%). He didn't call Ohio as tightly as it was (I think he said it would be 4.0%, vs the 1.5-2% it ended up being), but some of his calls there (PA) were right on the money.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13510_3-57...of-the-quants/

    As a fellow analyst of sorts, I gotta WOOT the guy, and then for just going with what made sense to him instead of bowing to pressure.

    One of the guys on INTPc ended up betting $500 on four different election bets, based on Silver's projections, and he won them all, making about $425 in the process.
    Yeah, I saw that. (I wonder if Nate Silver's an INTP?) It's so interesting how it all works. Now I'm all curious. My mom was sitting on my bed watching the results come in and we were talking about it (while I was trying to write a paper), and we wondered about things like how they can call a state with only a certain percentage reporting. Poll aggregation makes a lot of sense; population density and areas of concentration combined with electoral votes makes a lot of sense. She was up late worrying that they were going to cheat like in 2000, but then she mentioned when we were talking about calling states early that maybe some of the precincts which had yet to report were heavily Democratic so it didn't matter- and I told her that in that case they couldn't cheat because 1) the results wouldn't make sense and people would notice, and 2) a believable percentage in the still unknown at that point for Romney still wouldn't be enough to put him ahead. My super Hindu mystic aunt had predicted he would win based on how the planets are aligned for the Democrats and Republicans; the Democratic party has Jupiter at the top of the chart and the Republicans have Saturn at the bottom. Hehe I was still skeptical, but you never know.

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    It should be noted that the Dems gained seats in the Senate, and it looks like the they will gain seats in the House too (though the Reps will still control the House).

    Though still greatly divided, I think the majority blamed Congress more for the dysfunction than the president. Hopefully, this is enough to stop the "No compromise" rhetoric. Try _something_ already.

    I saw the debt ceiling debacle as a hostage attempt by the Republicans. If we have a repeat of that regarding the fiscal cliff, then the Republicans may just created another Democrat.

    To me, the Republicans have to show that they care more about the well being of the nation than being proven right. That they value truth over ideology. That they will do what works rather than what insisting only what they believe. That they will actually put country above party. Because, I think it has been the opposite for the last 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    To me, the Republicans have to show that they care more about the well being of the nation than being proven right. That they value truth over ideology. That they will do what works rather than what insisting only what they believe. That they will actually put country above party. Because, I think it has been the opposite for the last 4 years.
    The problem is that they think they are putting the country above party, and undermining the President's work is the way to combat his misdirection. But of course to everyone else, it looks like ignorant, egotistical, hard headedness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    It should be noted that the Dems gained seats in the Senate, and it looks like the they will gain seats in the House too (though the Reps will still control the House).
    I have not investigated this particular claim I'm about to mention, but I saw a national-level activist describe how areas were rezoned by the Tea Party pubs after the 2010 census in order to ensure that they would maintain their seats / have better control in this election, and that they would have lost seats (kind of how we saw Michele Bachmann almost lose hers, plus another who did lose a seat) if the rezoning had not occurred.

    IOW, the House would have been smacked up a bit more toward Dem if the rezoning hadn't been done.

    I saw the debt ceiling debacle as a hostage attempt by the Republicans. If we have a repeat of that regarding the fiscal cliff, then the Republicans may just created another Democrat.

    To me, the Republicans have to show that they care more about the well being of the nation than being proven right. That they value truth over ideology. That they will do what works rather than what insisting only what they believe. That they will actually put country above party. Because, I think it has been the opposite for the last 4 years.
    That's my opinion too, as a former Repub. (I think technically I was registered Repub longer than Democrat.) It does take two to tango, but the debt ceiling is one great example. And I work for Fed Gov and we almost got shut down twice until they figured out how to deal with all their baggage. it was just very consternating to have them play chicken with our jobs, in a situation where we weren't allowed to go out and look for other work, yet might not have gotten paid for any time that was missed.
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