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    I'm taking classes to become a medical assistant right now and the absurdity of our system is making me crazy(er).
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    I think a singer payer system would be much easier
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReadingRainbows View Post
    I think a singer payer system would be much easier
    How would that work exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReadingRainbows View Post
    I think a singer payer system would be much easier
    A form of barter, then? Musical performances in exchange for medical services?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    I'm taking classes to become a medical assistant right now and the absurdity of our system is making me crazy(er).
    my friend's mom is?was?doing that i don't know if she's done with the program or not.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Single Payer Insurance. Billing multiple companies is a pain in the ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    that you don't have to pay through the nose for? and why are insurance companies care more about turning a profit than taking care of their customers? why are they two faced? something needs to change, and fast.
    Because market forces havent resulted in equity or efficiency of service, they wont, because medicine and care not the same a cola bottles.

    The market works fine within its limits, this is yet to be appreciated by its greatest fanboys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    More immediately, when we take health care, like national defense and public safety, out of the marketplace, so decisions are made on the basis of more effective criteria than making a profit.
    While that is good from a social perspective, limited resources would still have to be rationed somehow. For example, if too many people need joint replacement surgery, how does one decide who gets it? Economics can work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    While that is good from a social perspective, limited resources would still have to be rationed somehow. For example, if too many people need joint replacement surgery, how does one decide who gets it? Economics can work well.
    In the current system, resources are rationed based on ability to pay. A better rationing system would be based on ability to benefit. In the bigger picture, though, perhaps we need to do more joint replacements which directly affect a person's mobility, improving their independence and reducing the services they will subsequently need; and less of other types of procedures that are more elective in nature.

    It is often unpopular to say so, but end of life care consumes disproportinate resources prolonging the lives of people who often would just prefer palliative care. Same with neonatal units that spend thousands of dollars saving the tiniest preemies, often just for a life of perpetual medical intervention. Now add in the many tests, etc. done by doctors as defensive medicine, just to cover their own behinds in the event of a lawsuit, and there is alot of money in the health care system not going to the most productive end. Yes, it would be ideal to have and do it all, but when resources are in fact limited, some form of rationing or triage is needed. Using ability to pay as the basis, however, does not get the greatest return for resources spent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReadingRainbows View Post
    Single Payer Insurance. Billing multiple companies is a pain in the ass.
    I'm not for just "ONE BIG" insurance company. There has to be competition. After all, that's what yields good prices. If there was just one big company, they could just charge you whatever the hell they want.

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