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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    I don't see much emotional manipulation.
    Even Stevie Wonder could see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Even Stevie Wonder could see it.
    What a powerful point you've made.

    Allow me to genuflect.

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    What do you have to say about the substance of the article @Jaguar besides it's purported manipulative properties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    I would like to discombobulate the system and suggest that all Americans do a write-in vote for me.

    Remember, a vote for an outer planet is a vote for stability. If I was president, I would let you lead your lives freely. Heck, my gravitational pull isn't worth anything from where I am at because of Jupiter and your own moon.

    I am not interested in stealing your resources because I am already bejeweled out with fancy clouds and a rings system that is the envy of this long arm of Sagittarius.

    Consider me a third party, a third choice, and one who if elected President, will shower the entire globe with ponies.
    I'm scared that once the bunnies get power, it'll go to their heads, and they won't be able to resist the siren song of carrot exploitation.

    Yes, they look like harmless innocent bunnies right now; but that is how it always begins....

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    What do you have to say about the substance of the article besides it's purported manipulative properties?
    Well, it's a complicated issue to me.

    For example, even if one agrees with the article, and even if there is a candidate out there on all 50 state ballots who supposedly has not done all these things and claims to be a better person,

    (1) there is no indication that he will be a better president or not commit some OTHER type of atrocity while in office, and

    (2) it's also likely that a vote for him will simply be a vote for Romney, as our two-party system is kind of like a nuclear war stalemate... you're locked into a certain path of behavior simply out of mistrust for the other side and it's very difficult to get enough people to risk voting outside the grid simultaneously from both sides to break the lock. The risk is simply too high.

    On the other hand, there's no indication that the article is entirely accurate in its details or in describing the motivations of the current president, or that it properly weights all the actions of our current president -- besides which, since people's values differ, they might disagree on what is most important to vote for in this situation.

    I also have a response similar to Jag's, in that I hate overt emotional manipulation regardless of the side that is doing it, even if I have an opinion of my own. I'm currently pissed off about Maryland's prop 7 (new casino building), because I've been hearing one side blatantly misquote the Baltimore Sun in its ads but otherwise run a convincing-sounding ad. It gets old not just dealing with people who want to get power to do things but also trying to sift through all the lies and distortions meant to benefit one side over the other.
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    LMAO..."even if you think he is better overall...dont vote for him because of XYZ" sounds genius to me. Its along the lines of...Neven if you think he is awesome...dont vote for him because he is (republican/democrat)".

    Saturn has my vote based on this article.
    Im out, its been fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    Saturn has my vote based on this article.
    FOOL. I TOLD YOU NOT TO TRUST THE BUNNEEEZ!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    FOOL. I TOLD YOU NOT TO TRUST THE BUNNEEEZ!!!!!

    Your talkin to an ISTP. U gotta do better then that

    The OP scared me more then that
    Im out, its been fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    Your talkin to an ISTP. U gotta do better then that
    Fine. Here is how it begins.



    And soon you're stuck with this:



    Zillions of 'em.

    Scared yet? 500 lb sacks of fluffy bunny wrinkly cuteness, smothering this country in bunny love? I know I'm sick!
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    I don't know if the guy that wrote this article participated in it or not, but I saw a lot of this on HuffPost Live with John Cusak, believe it or not. If I could vote for someone that wouldn't do that stuff, even if I disagreed with them on other stuff, I probably would. I might even vote for Ron Paul, despite being socialist, because I agree with about 25% or what he stands for and I trust him more than anybody else on the scene. I think he's otherwise wrong-headed and crazy, but I don't think his soul belongs to the corporate gods or that he is okay with blowing up kids (American or otherwise). But, a vote for Ron Paul is essentially a vote for Obama, so we're back to square one.

    Obama does get by with more than a Republican would without garnering much attention because Democrats have a reputation for being anti-war, so people don't look for it. Republicans generally don't have much to gain by pointing it out. So it has been getting swept under the rug.

    However, a lot of the GOP seems to have a hardon for Iran and I just got a sincere, passionate facebook spam from my sweet, old former Bible college instructors about the plan of radical Islam to take over the world (via Glenn Beck) . . . I don't see Romney killing fewer people than Obama. It really is a choice between Evils.

    And yes, I'm an Occupier at heart, but we couldn't keep the group going in a town the size of mine. We ended up with not much more a handful of seventy-year-old hippies there at the end. But I still have my sharpies and I know where to get the best (made in China) board for my (anti-corporate) signs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    That's a tough day for air traffic controllers if I ever heard one.
    I shall renamed this day "world peace day" for humanity will be too distracted to do anything else.

    << Is a genius without Ni.

    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    LMAO..."even if you think he is better overall...dont vote for him because of XYZ" sounds genius to me. Its along the lines of...Neven if you think he is awesome...dont vote for him because he is (republican/democrat)".

    Saturn has my vote based on this article.
    Every ocean begins with its one drop of rain water.

    /switches to ENTJ mode

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Fine. Here is how it begins.



    And soon you're stuck with this:



    Zillions of 'em.
    I know not of what you speak!

    P.s. I demand my carrots and jellybeans harvesting quota be met by election day!

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