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    Default Rick Santorum says smart people will never be on the side of conservatives.

    Read it here folks.

    Former presidential candidate Rick Santorum attacked the media and "smart people" for not being on the side of conservatives in a speech to the Values Voter Summit on Saturday.

    "We will never have the media on our side, ever, in this country," Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator, told the audience at the Omni Shoreham hotel. "We will never have the elite, smart people on our side."
    I couldn't pass this up. He can say things like that without batting an eyelash, and he came close to the Republican nomination. There are countless more people like him in the senate and congress who, at this point, essentially control the direction of the Republican party, and there are millions of people willing to vote for them. These considerations make it hard to have much optimism for the USA.

    P.S: He also attacks libertarianism in that article, so he's really covering his bases.
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    This is one of the reasons why I chastise anyone with a brain who still feels like the Republican party represents them. That party doesn't just represent ignorance, it's proud of its ignorance. It has been proud of its ignorance for a long time (I saw it from the inside), but it has taken a while for it to "come out". The only thing we can hope for is that people like Santorum will keep making public statements like these, to let the rest of the country know what these ignorant, anti-science pieces of sh-t really believe.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Well, to be fair you shouldn't characterize a movement by its worst members only. Democrats need to organize like and have the work ethic of Republicans in order to steamroll them. Until then they won't have the upper hand on every front.
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    Rick, if the smart people aren't on your side, that should tell you something, now shouldn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UniqueMixture View Post
    Well, to be fair you shouldn't characterize a movement by its worst members only. Democrats need to organize like and have the work ethic of Republicans in order to steamroll them. Until then they won't have the upper hand on every front.
    Santorum isn't the worst.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Rick, if the smart people aren't on your side, that should tell you something, now shouldn't it?
    Yes, it says that Satan has captured the minds of the intellectually elite, and only the faithful can save them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Santorum isn't the worst.
    You gotta get out of that hell hole man. It's eating away at your soul.
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    How bizarre. As if there was no way to bring smart people to the conservative side. The hell kind of weird and pessimistic and stupid comment is that?!

    Did he elaborate? Did he explain himself? Is that statement out of context?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Did he elaborate? Did he explain himself? Is that statement out of context?
    From what I've gathered, he was (very clumsily) saying that academic types seek to advance technocratic policies that centralize power and decision-making in the hands of national experts, at the expense of both sub-national institutions, private organizations, and individuals, thereby maximizing the control of said elites over the operation and direction of the country, which means that a party ostensibly advancing federalism and limited government isn't going to appeal to them.

    Santorum made himself an easy target with his syntax, but his point was probably little different from F.A. Hayek's contention that classical socialism and central planning was popular among academics because a combination of intellectual arroance and self-aggrandizement leads to the 'fatal conceit' that 'man is able to shape the world around him according to his wishes', and the associatted notion that highly educated experts are therefore the rightful architects and guides over societies and institutions.

    Back in college, when left-wing friends had trouble understanding what this means, I always brought up Rumsfeld as an example of this principle in operation.

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