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  • Liberal + P

    11 37.93%
  • Moderate + P

    9 31.03%
  • Conservative + P

    3 10.34%
  • Liberal + J

    3 10.34%
  • Moderate + J

    3 10.34%
  • Conservative + J

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Lots of other interesting research on that site.
    Thank you, Salomé.

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    Dawkins and Enqvist found out space is within. It is not their discovery, it is the discovery of Maxwell and Einstein.
    Inference of Dawkins and Enqvist: God plays dice.
    Gagarin was out in space too, and he did not see God there.

    I do not get it. Space is within. How can what is outside be inside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    This article suggests there is a link between right-hemisphere dominance (RHD) and liberalism (left-hemisphere and conservatism).

    There is also a purported link between RHD and Pness (LHD and Jness).

    I dunno. I think it might be controversial to assert that Republicans have brains.

    Let's see. (poll to follow)
    I wouldnt be sure either, I've met authoritarian control freaks who were unhealthy FP or TJ before and they come in every stripe, left and right wing.

    There are lots of the pet causes of both left and right which bely seriously shady thought controlly tendencies, if only for the amount of times I've found people absolutely hate people holding opposing viewpoints, most of the time its a matter of you can differ on a, b and c but d, d's a fact jack, you dont get d, well, you're a dumbass/bigot/hater/add the name calling of your choice.

    I've read books, there was one called Snoop about inferences from peoples rooms or homes which suggested that conservatives are planners and have calenders, rollerdexs, technology assisting planning and preparedness while liberals are artists and have painting or drawing materials scattered all around. Not only is that a pretty stark contrast, lacking all nuance or tendency to be a "bit of both", ie creative and organised, its just too much of a generalisation for me and contemporaneous.

    I say that because organisation used to be a watch word of the left but post-sixties it sure hasnt been.

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    honestly, i dont know enough about cognitive science or neuroscience to make a judgment on this . .. but it does seem really like a shit ton of conjecture based on a bit of science and not particularly rigorous . . . like the wording itself of the entire thing seems more like an email to a friend than anything scientific, but that's my feeling on most social science based books/theories that try to draw inferences from studies within hard science and look for social science experiments to Frankenstein their theories together. not to sound harsh but at their worse stuff like this seems biased (ie the person clearly went into it with some confirmation bias) and based on semantic arguments that rest on logical fallacies. i wouldn't take something like this serious enough to make me question whether political orientation was somehow reliant on brain hemispheric dominance.

    not trying to be obnoxious or anything, just my opinion.
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    Interesting, but I thought they were moving away from simplistic left brain/right brain dichotomies in neuroscience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    What about those of us who consider ourselves neither "conservative" or "liberal," politically, using the current american definitions?
    I guess that would come under "moderate".
    Do you perhaps just mean liberal or conservative worldviews, rather than politics?
    There is no sensible difference. I'm not talking about party politics.
    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    I do not get it. Space is within. How can what is outside be inside?
    We're all inside-out and outside-in, simultaneously. There is no conflict. Just differing perspectives.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I wouldnt be sure either, I've met authoritarian control freaks who were unhealthy FP or TJ before and they come in every stripe, left and right wing.
    That's a different pole/poll?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinker85 View Post
    not to sound harsh but at their worse stuff like this seems biased (ie the person clearly went into it with some confirmation bias) .
    For sure. It's not "hard" science. Whatever gave you that idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    Interesting, but I thought they were moving away from simplistic left brain/right brain dichotomies in neuroscience?
    No doubt they are. But this is a site wedded to spurious dichotomies. So one more can't hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    No doubt they are. But this is a site wedded to spurious dichotomies. So one more can't hurt.
    Oh, of course. It is interesting to think about though.
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    i read a (scientific) article recently sustaining that the long-held idea that the brain can easily be divided into 2 parts, where the right is artistic and the left logical is completely wrong. instead, apparently there is A LOT of connection between the two parts on the brain, the system is much more complicated that we thought. this binarism would be a classical ocidental division: we do love to divide things into black/white, small/big, dark/light, etc etc.
    so this is to say i in no way agree with this conversative/liberal concept associated with parts of the brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    i read a (scientific) article recently sustaining that the long-held idea that the brain can easily be divided into 2 parts, where the right is artistic and the left logical is completely wrong. instead, apparently there is A LOT of connection between the two parts on the brain, the system is much more complicated that we thought. this binarism would be a classical ocidental division: we do love to divide things into black/white, small/big, dark/light, etc etc.
    so this is to say i in no way agree with this conversative/liberal concept associated with parts of the brain
    Did you vote though? :P
    (Feel free to cite the article, too)

    The trouble is, we are still fumbling around in the dark when it comes to brains. The brain has an inordinately hard time trying to figure itself out. So, in the meantime (which may be for all time) we seize on analogies that seem to fit.

    Besides which, there is no conflict between left/right specialisation and connection between the hemispheres (which is the function of the corpus callosum). Most of the interesting / bizarre stuff we have learnt about hemisphere lateralisation has been as a result of that connection being severed (eg callosotomy as a cure for severe epilepsy.)
    Case studies are vanishingly rare as a result.

    I would love to have my left brain temporarily anaesthetised to see what, if any difference, it made to my personality.
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    does libertarian count as liberal, conservative or moderate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    does libertarian count as liberal, conservative or moderate?
    economically conservative / socially liberal?

    I guess it depends which you give most weight to.
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