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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    If you could see the idiocy of my facebook homepage, you'd realize it's a perfectly sensible sentiment.
    Then your Facebook homepage is the place to express it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Then your Facebook homepage is the place to express it.
    I have.

    There's just so much related idiocy in this thread, I decided to do both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I have.

    There's just so much related idiocy in this thread, I decided to do both.
    Do you agree with this post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStarchDefenders View Post
    Also, This was interesting. "“A recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that 94 percent of African Americans surveyed supported President Obama, versus 0 percent — yes, zero percent — who supported Mitt Romney,” Politico recalled."
    Yeah. I'll bet they said that.

    Here's what some other people had to say:

    Black Conservatives Make Their Voices Heard After Poll Shows Romney Support Among African-Americans at Zero Percent - A new poll conducted by NBC and the Wall Street Journal shows that support for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney among black people stands at an incredible zero percent. Nada. Zilch. Zero.

    But in order for the poll to be accurate, one would have to assume that there are indeed “zero” African-Americans that stand with Mitt Romney. And while the folks at NBC or WSJ certainly aren’t obligated to justify their findings, they would likely have a hard time doing so to the sea of African-Americans who took to Twitter to express their support for Romney after feeling as if they were being ignored — or better yet, as if they don’t exist at all.

    Thus the #BlackConservativesForMittRomney hashtag was born. Here are some of the best:...
    http://linksterdiversions.wordpress....-zero-percent/

    As we have observed, conservative black Americans have become more politically engaged over the last few years, particularly over the last 18 months. This includes voters, as well as office-seekers, commentators and activists. Prominent black conservatives, such as Reps. Allen West and Tim Scott, have become stars of the conservative movement.

    While these folks are typically viewed with extreme derision amongst hardcore liberals and most politically active blacks, they have not garnered the sort of attention in one key area many observers thought they might: the press. Although the establishment press (commonly referred to as the “mainstream media” or “MSM” by non-progressives) has taken a few jabs at black conservatives in the recent past, they have largely ignored their political significance.

    Around 90 percent of black voters support progressive causes and Democrat politicians. Many older Americans are aware that this was not always the case.

    The answer to why the nascent black conservative movement is being disregarded by the establishment press lies in the lack – or complete absence – of coverage they have given other highly newsworthy issues of late: Black conservatism threatens the pre-eminence and perceptual validity of their ideology.

    If the Democratic Party loses a substantial portion of the black vote, they’re done for – and they know it.
    There are two reasons for this: One is simply a matter of numbers; radicals have been able to gain ground only because they have been operating within the Democratic Party. An explosion in black conservatism would expose many of these radicals. Two, such a swing would embolden white conservatives and likely give rise to a similar transformation of Latino voting habits. Thus, it is of no benefit to the establishment press to spotlight black conservatives, let alone provide a forum for their message.
    http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...stion-3115379/






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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Do you agree with this post?
    I haven't really followed the Ron Paul whatever-the-fuck-happened at all.

    That being said, I've called myself a libertarian since high school (although now, I no longer really do, as the movement has become infested with a bunch of know-nothing radicals, and I'm far more centrist in my politics [and far more knowledgeable in my understanding of how the economy actually works] than they are), voted for the libertarian candidate in '04, and couldn't give a shit whether or not Ron Paul got whatever-the-fuck-attention he and/or his supporters wanted him to get (even if he technically deserved it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I haven't really followed the Ron Paul whatever-the-fuck-happened at all.
    It is not about Ron Paul but about the way the leaders of the party handle the rest of its members. You can watch the video on page one of the thread.

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    Heh, just as I complain about creeping despotic democracy within the republican party Al Gore goes and takes democracy to a whole new catastrophic level. As much as I complain about some Republicans the Democrats are just hopeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    Just out of interest how do you recommend the Republican party reach out to blacks and Hispanics and avoid the appearance of tokenism at the same time?
    Not a clue. Just what my dad thinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    Heh, just as I complain about creeping despotic democracy within the republican party Al Gore goes and takes democracy to a whole new catastrophic level. As much as I complain about some Republicans the Democrats are just hopeless.

    http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news...ctoral-college

    There's a fair argument to be made that that system should be trashed. Votes between different citizens in different states, for example, are not equal. One could theoretically win a presidency with far, far less than half of the popular vote (I believe it could actually be as low as around 20-ish percent). It also encourages people not to vote. Why should a Democrat in Mississipii bother voting? Why should a Romney supporter in New York bother leaving the house? It also makes third party victories even harder.

    It is a system that, in many ways, is designed to deal with limitations on technology that don't exist any longer.

    I'm not saying necessarily that it should go (though I'm really not a big fan of it in general), but I can see why there's a debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    Heh, just as I complain about creeping despotic democracy within the republican party Al Gore goes and takes democracy to a whole new catastrophic level. As much as I complain about some Republicans the Democrats are just hopeless.

    http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news...ctoral-college
    Beefeater, I'm curious what your argument is, since you seem to think a popular vote is such a bad idea that it's ridiculous on its face. I can't understand why it's not a no-brainer.
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