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    Bwahahaaha!

    But what if it turns out that when the press calls a lie a lie, nobody cares?

    Here in Tampa, the new assertiveness is getting its first test on a big stage, and so far the results are not encouraging. As Ben Smith of BuzzFeed has pointed out, the Romney campaign is simply swatting aside the media's objections to its welfare ad: "We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers," said Neil Newhouse, a Romney pollster.
    'We're Not Going to Let Our Campaign Be Dictated by Fact-Checkers'

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    That is a perfect nightmare. I suggest you disband your culture altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    That is a perfect nightmare. I suggest you disband your culture altogether.
    "Closing up for moral obsolescense. Please go home."
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    What the hell?! How is that even a vote? Just whoever Boehner thinks is the loudest? I thought this was supposed ot be used only for elementary school talent contests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    "Closing up for moral obsolescense. Please go home."
    It is either that or drowning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Kaczynski's 'Ship of Fools'
    The cabin boy this time was getting angry.

    "You damn fools!" he shouted. "Don’t you see what the captain and the mates are doing? They’re keeping you occupied with your trivial grievances about blankets and wages and the dog being kicked so that you won’t think about what is really wrong with this ship --– that it’s getting farther and farther to the north and we’re all going to be drowned. If just a few of you would come to your senses, get together, and charge the poop deck, we could turn this ship around and save ourselves. But all you do is whine about petty little issues like working conditions and crap games and the right to suck cocks."

    The passengers and the crew were incensed.

    "Petty!!" cried the Mexican, "Do you think it’s reasonable that I get only three-fourths the wages of an Anglo sailor? Is that petty?

    "How can you call my grievance trivial? shouted the bosun. "Don’t you know how humiliating it is to be called a fruit?"

    "Kicking the dog is not a ‘petty little issue!’" screamed the animal-lover. "It’s heartless, cruel, and brutal!"

    "Alright then," answered the cabin boy. "These issues are not petty and trivial. Kicking the dog is cruel and brutal and it is humiliating to be called a fruit. But in comparison to our real problem – in comparison to the fact that the ship is still heading north – your grievances are petty and trivial, because if we don’t get this ship turned around soon, we’re all going to drown.

    "Fascist!" said the professor.

    "Counterrevolutionary!" said the lady passenger. And all of the passengers and crew chimed in one after another, calling the cabin boy a fascist and a counterrevolutionary. They pushed him away and went back to grumbling about wages, and about blankets for women, and about the right to suck cocks, and about how the dog was treated. The ship kept sailing north, and after a while it was crushed between two icebergs and everyone drowned.

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    Romney Fundraiser on Yacht Flying Flag of the Caymen Islands

    The fact that the guy's running for President in America, won't show his tax returns and then hosts a fundraiser with some of the richest folks in the country for the American Presidential race on a yacht with a flag of a country known as one of the world's biggest tax shelters?

    Every time I turn around the past couple days it seems like there's a new story making Mitt and the Republicans look worse.
    Does he want a pillow for his head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZPowers View Post
    Romney Fundraiser on Yacht Flying Flag of the Caymen Islands

    The fact that the guy's running for President in America, won't show his tax returns and then hosts a fundraiser with some of the richest folks in the country for the American Presidential race on a yacht with a flag of a country known as one of the world's biggest tax shelters?

    Every time I turn around the past couple days it seems like there's a new story making Mitt and the Republicans look worse.
    A friend of mine posted this today:

    "If you have a problem with Mitt Romney putting his money in the Cayman Islands, then you have a problem with an individual’s control of their own personal property, and their right to do with their property as they see fit. You have a problem with the exercise of economic and property rights."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    A friend of mine posted this today:

    "If you have a problem with Mitt Romney putting his money in the Cayman Islands, then you have a problem with an individual’s control of their own personal property, and their right to do with their property as they see fit. You have a problem with the exercise of economic and property rights."
    Well, I'm against direct tax evasion or simply not paying taxes in the same way I am tax loopholes and tax shelters, particularly one most people can't use. Is that an assault on economic and property rights? The legal ways to not pay taxes is about freedom or property, and the illegal ways, what? Somehow aren't the same? That's like saying if you find a way to legally run someone over, you have that right and there's nothing wrong with it, but get the same result in another fashion and we throw you in prison. Just because he can do it, doesn't mean it's right or should be permitted.

    I'm not particularly a fan that Romney, in 2010 basically got to choose to pay an income tax rate lower than someone making 8,300 dollars, and wants to lower his own tax bracket even more beyond that. And I certainly think the idea of dodging taxes all you can is the opposite of American, even if you do think they're too high.

    And if your running for the President of a country, I think actually paying into the system as intended at least shows a level of patriotism. Maybe you want to reform that system, but certainly playing by the rules and being willing to invest in the country you allegedly believe in is a sign of faith in that country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    A friend of mine posted this today:

    "If you have a problem with Mitt Romney putting his money in the Cayman Islands, then you have a problem with an individual’s control of their own personal property, and their right to do with their property as they see fit. You have a problem with the exercise of economic and property rights."
    I don't see a problem with agreeing upon some rules about about what people do with their assets, rather it seems to be a necessity of society. After all, when we require someone to pay taxes we are denying them complete control over what they do with their money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I don't see a problem with agreeing upon some rules about about what people do with their assets, rather it seems to be a necessity of society. After all, when we require someone to pay taxes we are denying them complete control over what they do with their money.
    Agreed. However, I don't approve of the federal income tax as I don't approve of the massive centralization of power in DC which means that the ones ones control the people's money are incredibly removed from the everyday citizens who earn their money and property. Moreover, if I earn or spend my money abroad then their jurisdiction over my property is based purely on their jurisdiction over me and there is no relationship between that society and the property itself.
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