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    Strange, people usually consider me someone leaning to the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post


    Strange, people usually consider me someone leaning to the right.
    That's because the test is donwright awful; almost anyone, even right wing conservatives, will be more likely to score in the green.

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    stalin and lenin are not communism. come back when you know what you're talking about.
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    okay, lets look at communism (Stalin, Lenin, food shortages, long lines of starving women and children, oppressive dictators, low production, billions upon billions of tax dollars wasted on red tape and entirely inconsequential infrastructure, self sacrifice and poverty moralized)

    you cannot have social freedom if the government controls what you do for a living and how much money you make (assuming those are the only things they control, which I'm sure they aren't)
    you really just think you can give the government all that power and money and they're going to use it to "make sure everything is okay" and "use it for the public good"? of course they aren't. people go into politics because they want to have control over other people.
    if you want to trust a system and a leader you don't even know (who has absolutely no incentive to anything productive with it) with all of your power and money and hope they'll make the right decision with it, be my guest, but I sure as hell am not going to. (just know that your system is impossible, people WILL abuse their power and productivity will plummet lower and lower until there is no more wealth to redistribute and everyone becomes poor. the laws of human nature are irrefutable, well documented and do not change, why not embrace a system that keeps this in mind and allows it to be channeled in a direction that benefits everyone?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    stalin and lenin are not communism. come back when you know what you're talking about.
    they are according to wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
    4 Marxist schools
    4.1 Marxism
    4.2 Marxism-Leninism
    4.2.1 Stalinism
    4.2.2 Trotskyism
    4.2.3 Maoism
    4.2.3.1 Prachanda Path
    4.2.4 Others
    4.2.4.1 Hoxhaism
    4.2.4.2 Titoism
    come back when you understand basic human motivation
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    oh, if wikipedia says so, it must be true!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    they are according to wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism


    come back when you understand basic human motivation

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    i repeat: come back when you know what the concept "communism" is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    they are according to wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism


    come back when you understand basic human motivation

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    i repeat: come back when you know what the concept "communism" is.

    let's not play these "you don't know what you're talking about" games. the definition is right here from Merriam-Webster dictionary. believe it or not, most of the opponents of communism actually do know what it is.
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism
    a : a theory advocating elimination of private property
    b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
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    a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
    b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
    c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
    d : communist systems collectively
    does this sound like social freedom to you? a totalitarian system of government in which a dictator controls the sole means of government run productivity and distribution?
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    look, i am not your teacher.
    1. read the definition of socialism. read that of communism (in fact the definition you gave me was just great). read the definition of anarchy.
    2. understand the linear progression between the 3
    3. understand how the people you enumerated are placed on that scale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    let's not play these "you don't know what you're talking about" games. the definition is right here from Merriam-Webster dictionary. believe it or not, most of the opponents of communism actually do know what it is.
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism


    does this sound like social freedom to you? a totalitarian system of government in which a dictator controls the sole means of government run productivity and distribution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    That's because the test is donwright awful; almost anyone, even right wing conservatives, will be more likely to score in the green.
    Not necessarily. I know quite a few people who scored on the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Not necessarily. I know quite a few people who scored on the right.
    Only a few though; given that roughly half the country is right-wing, such results should be more common. It's not so much the results as is some of the questions; some are written in such a way that no one in their right mind would agree or disagree with them.

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