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    Default WWII Vet and ND Judge on Romney.

    I love WWII Vets...

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    His Poem^

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    Whether its a stunt or not I actually liked that, that poem was well written in parts and better than a lot partisan pundits spin and soundbites, although its only really doing the same. Probably.

    I always wonder what happened to the progressives of yester year, particularly the second world war era, the sixties and seventies saw some real wrong turns by the pseudo-left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Whether its a stunt or not I actually liked that, that poem was well written in parts and better than a lot partisan pundits spin and soundbites, although its only really doing the same. Probably.

    I always wonder what happened to the progressives of yester year, particularly the second world war era, the sixties and seventies saw some real wrong turns by the pseudo-left.
    The red-scare and so called communism. The left these days are either moderates or moderate right. It probably brought most people further right than intended.

    Remember, Americans are scared of anything that has even a whiff of anything they deemed socialism/communism (whether it is or not.) Many things we had in those yesteryears were the work of these people. Medicare, Social Security, the Interstate Highways, our once great school system, NASA, the first computers and servers (not the kind we're used to today.) Public mails, fireman, police force, worker's rights, and women's suffrage during the Progressive Era. They've build everything only to see these Senators, Representatives, Businessmen, and past presidents tear at it one by one (wanting to turn our public mail system into a private system, wanting to turn our medicare and social security into a private system, etc.)

    It is probably doing the same, hearing this from a veteran of WWII means a lot though (as there aren't many of them living today... and even then, journalists are scrambling to get every last account of their stories,) but there are actually many WWII veterans fed up.

    I've recently read about Filipino WWII war veterans in Florida throwing away their medals because the GOP representative wouldn't represent the community (with a big percentage of them being veterans.)

    Daniel Inouye, Senator of Hawaii and WWII veteran lamenting about what is lost today that was there when he was fighting in the War. Seeing him join the Gang of 14 back in the days of the debt debate.

    Quite honestly, I don't think it is a stunt.

    I'm looking him up and his sound bites are real about being a District Court Judge though:
    District Judge 1967-78
    Was a Lawyer for a time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rail Tracer View Post
    The red-scare and so called communism. The left these days are either moderates or moderate right. It probably brought most people further right than intended.

    Remember, Americans are scared of anything that has even a whiff of anything they deemed socialism/communism (whether it is or not.) Many things we had in those yesteryears were the work of these people. Medicare, Social Security, the Interstate Highways, our once great school system, NASA, the first computers and servers (not the kind we're used to today.) Public mails, fireman, police force, worker's rights, and women's suffrage during the Progressive Era. They've build everything only to see these Senators, Representatives, Businessmen, and past presidents tear at it one by one (wanting to turn our public mail system into a private system, wanting to turn our medicare and social security into a private system, etc.)

    It is probably doing the same, hearing this from a veteran of WWII means a lot though (as there aren't many of them living today... and even then, journalists are scrambling to get every last account of their stories,) but there are actually many WWII veterans fed up.

    I've recently read about Filipino WWII war veterans in Florida throwing away their medals because the GOP representative wouldn't represent the community (with a big percentage of them being veterans.)

    Daniel Inouye, Senator of Hawaii and WWII veteran lamenting about what is lost today that was there when he was fighting in the War. Seeing him join the Gang of 14 back in the days of the debt debate.

    Quite honestly, I don't think it is a stunt.

    I'm looking him up and his sound bites are real about being a District Court Judge though:
    District Judge 1967-78
    Was a Lawyer for a time
    The US had its own traditiions which were independent of capitalism at a time, Theodore Roosevelt was ready to take on the big money which seems to call all the shots in Washington now with his bull moose party, there was an alliance of workers and farmers in the south and populism too, a lot of that history isnt told or its only characterised as hard times, hard times for all or demonised through Randian revisionism as the dark days of union and mob might.

    I dont think it was just the success of the establishment in mobilising and keeping the population mobilised against threats, real or imagined, foreign or domestic, which has made real politics impossible in places like the US, the left hasnt been of the character or calibre necessary, its often alienating to mainstreet, and wall st. is remotely less alienating.

    For instance, and I dont mean to exaggerate their role as many, many political conservatives do, but the left has fragmented and become more and more interested in niche ideas and profiling niche, minority causes since the days of the hippies. I've read most of the hippy manifestos and propaganda and frankly it was a mess, most of it very, very easily co-opted by the capitalist radicals who came through in the eighties, its not surprising so see how many of the hippies became successful changing track or "crossing the house" to join business persons or how the others went crazy.

    I'm also fond of the perspective of books such as rebel sell, the left appeals to people of a particular age group with extreme, often out moded and aged ideologies (ironically) which dont really promise much besides moral clarity or ideological purity, in comparison real politics is mundane, dull and nothing to get excited about so real political struggles are impossible, there's no staying power like there is on the right wing.

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