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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Then where's the wonderful FDA? I thought it's purpose was to protect society.
    LOL, surely you can't be serious. There is a revolving door between the FDA and Monsanto. Michael Taylor, the current head of the FDA, is a former Monsanto VP.

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    Fyi Mal+, we've discussed Monsanto on this forum before.

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...ion-world.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    LOL, surely you can't be serious. There is a revolving door between the FDA and Monsanto. Michael Taylor, the current head of the FDA, is a former Monsanto VP.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...dZcQ_blog.html
    Drats! I want to know which veggies are the GMOs so I can buy them and eat them.
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    Most anti-GMO people are right up there with anti-vaccine people. Granted, I actually have recently heard some fair arguments to be against anti-GMO due to their downstream effect on pesticides. That's fair. Though it's not even an argument against GMO's, but more that we should still remain cautious to how it can effect other organisms effective evolution, and the chemical requirement to maintain GMO crops, or others near it.
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    For we know, anyone who has a "reputation" can be bought as well, to use their background credentials to get a foothold on what they want to achieve.
    Martin Boettcher 2 years ago
    I am a farmer, a rancher, and a memeber of the Canadian GM alfalfa coexistence comittee. I have seen the effects of GMO in my livestock, in humans, and to the economy and my rural collegues. Mark is either not very intelligent or a criminal for saying these things. I hope he reads this!
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    I hate Monsanto because of their unethical bullying monopolies and because of pesticides. The reason I support organic farming is because the methods of farming utilized since WWII have stripped our land of vital nutrients, it's counter productive to sustainable farming.

    The GMO debate is more similar to global warming than vaccines. ..it's more of a gray scientific area than an extremist cause, one I'd rather err on the side of caution for. Why? Because most people who argue FOR GMO crops feeding humanity tend to have a rather simple minded view of ecology, not grasping that, yes Virginia, animal agriculture is using up 30 percent of land, destroying the rain forest at an unimaginable rate, polluting water, affecting other crops, wasting grain, perpetuating cruelty, even if you don't believe in global warming, there's simply no rational defense for continuing to farm animals at the rate we do (the Carnegie Mellon study was insanely twisted by the media, the scientist themselves expressed regret at how "pro -meat " types twisted it into journalistic pseudo - science).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    The GMO debate is more similar to global warming than vaccines. ..it's more of a gray scientific area than an extremist cause, one I'd rather err on the side of caution for.
    The issue is most of the anti-GMO press and talk is focused on "scary genetics! we can't play god! oh noes!", which has been debunked in every which way, and shouldn't have even needed to be debunked in the first place. That was a lot of the rationalle (though not all) behind an anti-GMO bill that almost passed via voter refurrandum in Oregon 2 years ago. Thankfully it was shot down.
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