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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I didn't think that was a real billboard, was it? I though it was just a doctored picture on FaceBook. (I could be wrong, that was just what I thought when I saw it on FB.)
    It's fake. Generated from here: http://www.says-it.com/fastfood/kfc.php

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    LOL, Lesson #214: If you read it on FaceBook, don't trust it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    A corporation is facing social consequences for its behavior.
    false. only the owner has made statements.
    say what you want about the individual's beliefs spilling over onto their business policies, the fact of the matter is that chic-fil-a doesn't discriminate against homosexuals as customers or as employees. at least not on the corporate level. if they did, this issue would have come up long ago and we'd be hearing all the ins and outs of the legal briefs etc. etc. ETC. etc.
    It's unfortunate that this doesn't happen more often, particularly on Wall Street.
    agreed. but the folks on wall street, many of them, are actual criminals. the only thing chic-fil-a is guilty of is having an owner with an unhip, [currently] politically incorrect opinion.

    you also left out the part that they're facing numerous threats of legal and bureaucratic consequences for their behavior.
    that's unconstitutional. that's illegal.
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    Oh! Haha

    It honestly didn't occur to me someone would bother doing such a thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    false. only the owner has made statements.
    say what you want about the individual's beliefs spilling over onto their business policies, the fact of the matter is that chic-fil-a doesn't discriminate against homosexuals as customers or as employees. at least not on the corporate level. if they did, this issue would have come up long ago and we'd be hearing all the ins and outs of the legal briefs etc. etc. ETC. etc.
    What? Speech is part of behavior (by the way, Ivy pointed out discriminatory hiring practices by CFA earlier in this thread). I personally don't care if an individual's beliefs spill over into their business policies. If you want to run a business and wear your beliefs on your sleeve, then be prepared for people disagree with you vehemently, maybe even hate you or attack you. That's life, something that real people deal with every day if they have big mouths. Since corporations are legally people, I don't see any problem with that.

    I can't wait to see a corporation die of cancer.

    agreed. but the folks on wall street, many of them, are actual criminals.

    you also left out the part that they're facing numerous threats of legal and bureaucratic consequences for their behavior.
    Nothing is going to happen to anyone on Wall Street other than the public being thrown a scapegoat or two. The threats are just a show for people like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    Oh! Haha
    It honestly didn't occur to me someone would bother doing such a thing!
    I think it would come across as petty as well, if KFC would do such a thing... which is exactly why sensible companies avoid ruining their PR by doing that kind of stuff.
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    I agree... Mostly but I have to say it made me happy to see the target ad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    That's fine, and that is your right. (I'm not sure all of that's true, and I'm not sure they'd hire an openly gay employee based on the attitudes the company has been expressing, but fine.)
    I'm still learning new things about this company every time I open this thread.. It almost makes me want to go pull a @Lexicon and just say no more fast food ever.

    I've had to deal with over-zealous christanity in the form of my grandmother, which was cured by alzheimers. I think it may have been what pushed me away from christianity as a child, so I can't be too upset over it or I wouldnt have the beauty and spirituality I have in my heart now.. but between this and what @Ivy said, if there is blatant discrimination against employees that'd definitely be enough for me to stop going to the restaurant.

    Sad though, I liked their food. Why can't they just not be jerks so I can eat yummy fast food? :c

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    OKAY, and she's working for a Southern Baptist, private company.

    I have yet to be shocked. I can't imagine how you guys are even offended. She should go work for Wendy's instead.
    As insensitive as this sounds, I sort of feel the same way.. It isn't RIGHT, and she should be able to work there even if she isn't within their values for people.. I also don't think the woman knew that the company would treat her this way when she tried to join them. Laws are laws.. theres many people, including myself, that believe that companies exist because they don't generally break the law all the time for no good reason.

    But I don't apply to openly christian organizations because.. well.. Im not christian. Technically they should employ me, but why would I put myself through that hassle? Then again.. I'm not corporate-minded either and I still have to sometimes apply for corporate-style jobs. There are some things that the laws just don't touch yet. I remember being advised to wear make up at a job I had downtown, and I thought it was so offense that anyone would dare tell me I had to paint my face up like a doll to do paperwork.. But I needed my job, and the suggestion had a tone that suggested my job was on the line for it.. So I started dressing sharper and wearing make up and got to stay around for another couple of months before I left to Iraq. I felt disgusting inside for not standing up for myself, but I needed the money so I stayed quiet. I guess you just pick and choose your battles.

    If I needed money badly enough though, and this restaurant was the closest thing I had to a job, I'd probably fight for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    false. only the owner has made statements.
    As the story is unfolding here it seems more and more like this is the straw on the camel's back moreso than being a sudden outburst.. I haven't heard Chik-fil-a in the news anytime before recently, though I admit I'd been too busy to watch the news before lately. I had thought this situation was the first of its kind, but apparently there has been a number of illegal violations on CFA's part as well as open social discrimination.. While they have the right to state their opinions, mixing the former with the latter creates a sort of shit storm that is the current situation.
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    Have these activists succeeded in banning Chick-fill-A from cities? I would find it disturbing if they succeeded in banning a business.

    Still, I did not know that Chick-fill-A had a hatemonger for CEO. I will be avoiding Chick-fill-A from now on (Though I liked their chicken).

    Be warned, though, if come election time, we are in a "culture war", I will change my vote to all Democrats. (I was fairly certain about voting, again, for the Republican for my district. But if this election becomes about "culture", I am in no way going to give hatemongers a referendum.)

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