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    Well, money is definitely part of the issue... that those with money have more voice. This is actually a pretty prevalent problem, though, in a capitalist society; I think we've always been plagued by that reality.
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    It seems much more big corporate funding is going in support of, rather than in opposition to, the GM movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INA View Post
    It seems much more big corporate funding is going in support of, rather than in opposition to, the GM movement.
    without a bat of an eyelid. Quelle surprise.
    Definitely some of the bigger names (microsoft, amazon, starbucks, etc.)

    As far as money goes, in the past it's been the anti-same-sex marriage forces that got more funding and thus more votes, though. The Mormons heavily funded the passing of Prop 8 in CA, catching the same-sexers off-guard, to their chagrin. Anyway, it sounds like corporations are now mobilizing to fund causes on a very vocal and open scale; I'm not sure how I feel about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Definitely some of the bigger names (microsoft, amazon, starbucks, etc.)

    As far as money goes, in the past it's been the anti-same-sex marriage forces that got more funding and thus more votes, though. The Mormons heavily funded the passing of Prop 8 in CA, catching the same-sexers off-guard, to their chagrin. Anyway, it sounds like corporations are now mobilizing to fund causes on a very vocal and open scale; I'm not sure how I feel about that.
    In general, huge corporate funding distorting the quasi-democratic process is an unqualified bad in my view, whether it's Chick-Fil A or other religious movements or much bigger players such Amazon, cigarette companies, big pharma and the like. It did strike me as odd to complain about a relatively small one but not the other much larger and influential ones on the other side within the same issue at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INA View Post
    In general, huge corporate funding distorting the quasi-democratic process is an unqualified bad in my view, whether it's Chick-Fil A or other religious movements or much bigger players such Amazon, cigarette companies, big pharma and the like. It did strike me as odd to complain about a relatively small one but not the other much larger and influential ones on the other side within the same issue at the same time.
    <nods> I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    Interesting article that makes a good point.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/op...?smid=fb-share
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    i keep reading it posted that chilk-fil-a's official stance is in opposition of same sex marriage [or explicitly "anti-gay" or some other such thing] which i don't think is true.
    the owner's position is against same sex marriage. i heard the statement the guy made, and it sounds pretty personal, and detached from the corporation.

    what gives here, guys?
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    Pretty cool that target has a huge same sex registry ad right now I think. They were also the first of its kind to decide not to sell cigarettes which is also cool.

    And I saw a pic of a KFC billboard that said delicious chicken served without hate.

    Which I thought was pretty petty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    i keep reading it posted that chilk-fil-a's official stance is in opposition of same sex marriage [or explicitly "anti-gay" or some other such thing] which i don't think is true.
    the owner's position is against same sex marriage. i heard the statement the guy made, and it sounds pretty personal, and detached from the corporation.

    what gives here, guys?
    A corporation is facing social consequences for its behavior. It's unfortunate that this doesn't happen more often, particularly on Wall Street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    And I saw a pic of a KFC billboard that said delicious chicken served without hate.

    Which I thought was pretty petty.
    I didn't think that was a real billboard, was it? I though it was just a doctored picture on FaceBook. (I could be wrong, that was just what I thought when I saw it on FB.)
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