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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Deep down, she knew she was an ugly and an unlikable bitch in the first place. So she made a philosophy out of it.
    Yes. We can also say that about Hanna Arendt and Simone de Beauvoir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    It doesn't surprise me. Proof that Kant's philosophies are more relevant than hers, even if she wasn't explicit about her perspective's values.

    What parts are you referring to?
    She implicitly believed in following one's duty in being a rigid moralist. And treating man as an end in himself is integral to both theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Deep down, she knew she was an ugly and an unlikable bitch in the first place. So she made a philosophy out of it.
    Truth.

    I think I hate her books more than Mein Kampf or anything like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    She implicitly believed in following one's duty in being a rigid moralist. And treating man as an end in himself is integral to both theories.
    Pointing these things out to Randroids utterly infuriates most of them. There are a few non-rabid Randroids out there who simply argue objectively. But there aren't many objective Objectivists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Yes. We can also say that about Hanna Arendt and Simone de Beauvoir.
    Both over rated shite writers if you ask me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Truth.

    I think I hate her books more than Mein Kampf or anything like it.
    Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Extreme backlash against her Soviet home's ideology. More ironically, it was backlash against what the Soviet government claimed to be about, as if the Soviet government even remotely lived up to that. Anyhow, she seems to say that a lot of things are true just because, begging the question, you know? Her moral prescriptions don't seem to survive game theory very well.

    That's not even touching on the ridiculous of her views about complex, high order issues like government and the economy.
    To be honest Mise, Rand, all that shite is just a gross mirror image of Marxism.

    If you were to be charitable and consider her ideology from the perspective that no individual should be sacrificed, that sacrifice itself should become totally unnecessary, that's really a prescription for the more utopian varieties of socialism which believed that by eradicating all servitude or servility a new and more real individualism or at least individuality could emerge.

    It cant actually correspond to capitalism, it takes all sorts of logical sumersaults.

    I've one wish that anyone impressed by Rand's ideology could in an unblinkered fashion read Erich Fromm or GDH Cole and be enlightened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Lol.
    You run out of intellect faster and faster as time goes by DB, still good that you're not in the closet about it or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    To be honest Mise, Rand, all that shite is just a gross mirror image of Marxism.

    If you were to be charitable and consider her ideology from the perspective that no individual should be sacrificed, that sacrifice itself should become totally unnecessary, that's really a prescription for the more utopian varieties of socialism which believed that by eradicating all servitude or servility a new and more real individualism or at least individuality could emerge.

    It cant actually correspond to capitalism, it takes all sorts of logical sumersaults.

    I've one wish that anyone impressed by Rand's ideology could in an unblinkered fashion read Erich Fromm or GDH Cole and be enlightened.
    So you've read Ayn Rand: The Russian Radical by Chris Matthew Sciabarra? Or did you come up with that thesis yourself?
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