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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I agree with your point, to an extent, as I think I demonstrated in my long post above, but, as I also said in post, isn't this kind of stuff increasing?

    I don't think we really had these kinds of incidents much before Columbine.

    It seems like they're becoming a more-and-more regular occurrence nowadays.

    I get how the media might cover them more now, and we're all so much more connected, but still...

    I dunno... I think they're taking on a copycat flavor... each one kinda trying to outdo the last one...
    I'm not a history expert, so I'm not making a big case here, but it seems to me that humans are losing their shit in a more psychological fashion as society has evolved. I think the way we have evolved has been increasingly difficult to cope with, as we separate ourselves from nature and from being animal. That's just the sense that I get from observing people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I'm not a history expert, so I'm not making a big case here, but it seems to me that humans are losing their shit in a more psychological fashion as society has evolved. I think the way we have evolved has been increasingly difficult to cope with, as we separate ourselves from nature and from being animal. That's just the sense that I get from observing people.
    Good points, though I wonder if our ability to understand/identify these actions/mental processes--- how we research and name all of these things in present day-- over time are making such acts easier to spot, & creating an impression of a drastic increase.. I can't conclude one way or the other.. I imagine it's a mixed bag. Humans are messy like that.
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    To all the lurkers who maybe reading this thread, let me just say - welcome to Typology Central.

    In regards to the people who were killed - May you rest in peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    Good points, though I wonder if our ability to understand/identify these actions/mental processes--- how we research and name all of these things in present day-- over time are making such acts easier to spot, & creating an impression of a drastic increase.. I can't conclude one way or the other.. I imagine it's a mixed bag. Humans are messy like that.
    Yes. Most of my "sense" comes not from events in my lifetime, but from seeing people grow and twist around me as they age and attempt to cope with the world as it is. And as I can't live and observe people in any other time, I am limited in knowing.
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    Clearly, the single most relevant lesson to take from all this is that BATMAN IS EVIL AND IS POISONING OUR MINDS!!!111oneoneone
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    Quote Originally Posted by phobik View Post
    Clearly, the single most relevant lesson to take from all this is that BATMAN IS EVIL AND IS POISONING OUR MINDS!!!111oneoneone
    The first thing I thought is that the shooter was delivering a message that reality has no Batman.. but plenty of villains.

    Z said there are plenty of amazing heroic stories, but not enough to rival guys like this. Heroism on a ballsy scale, done by someone who has nothing else to live for. edit: I bet the very thought of someone like that makes most people laugh. It's a childish notion.

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    Charles Whitman killed 13 and wounded 31, things happen. The ability of the news to overwhelm our informational sources makes things that happen every day (as in death) seem more important/enticing/exciting/interesting to the watching public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    The first thing I thought is that the shooter was delivering a message that reality has no Batman.. but plenty of villains.

    Z said there are plenty of amazing heroic stories, but not enough to rival guys like this. Heroism on a ballsy scale, done by someone who has nothing else to live for.
    No doubt, the Hollywood mob and it's MPAA and RIAA thugs are behind this heroism monopoly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I agree with your point, to an extent, as I think I demonstrated in my long post above, but, as I also said in post, isn't this kind of stuff increasing?

    I don't think we really had these kinds of incidents much before Columbine.

    It seems like they're becoming a more-and-more regular occurrence nowadays.

    I get how the media might cover them more now, and we're all so much more connected, but still...

    I dunno... I think they're taking on a copycat flavor... each one kinda trying to outdo the last one...
    I have to agree with this. A kind of "You thought ___________ was bad? I'm gonna show you what bad is..."

    Also what Wolfie said is a good point, too. Technology outpacing our animal selves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I agree with your point, to an extent, as I think I demonstrated in my long post above, but, as I also said in post, isn't this kind of stuff increasing?

    I don't think we really had these kinds of incidents much before Columbine.

    It seems like they're becoming a more-and-more regular occurrence nowadays.

    I get how the media might cover them more now, and we're all so much more connected, but still...

    I dunno... I think they're taking on a copycat flavor... each one kinda trying to outdo the last one...
    Columbine was kind of the end of the school shooting era. There were more school shootings before that, since then there's a heightened awareness and they often stop them before they start.

    As far as mass shootings outside schools, they just seem random and have occurred for decades. "Going postal" wasn't just getting mad back in the late 80s.

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