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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    looking at a map yes, well in it you can't tell. but i have no problems with anyone, because no one has problems with me. i like to keep it that way, personally
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    Neat little read.

    I'm a Canadian who's travelled some and lived in the US for three years. My perspective:

    1. Few People Are Impressed By Us - there IS much to be admired about America, but really, most of the rest of the world all just go about living their lives without thinking too much about the US

    2. Few People Hate Us - agreed, although I'd still prefer the Canadian flag to be seen on my backpack

    3. We Know Nothing About The Rest Of The World - this is SO, SO TRUE it hurts

    4. We Are Poor At Expressing Gratitude And Affection - yes, but Canada's even worse, so what can I say? At least we are very polite ... lol

    5. The Quality of Life For The Average American Is Not That Great - sort of agreed, but mostly due to the disparity in income, the range is so huge between the haves and have-nots

    6. The Rest Of The World Is Not A Slum-Ridden Shithole Compared To Us - I had an American ask me if we had paved roads where I come from in Canada AND THEY WERE SERIOUS (this is when we were living in Wisconsin) ... umm yes, yes we do

    7. We’re Paranoid - sure it's true, there's so much info coming down the pipe that's negative every day it is kinda hard not to be I think

    8. We’re Status-Obsessed And Seek Attention - umm, not sure on this one as much, status-hyper-aware is maybe how I'd put it

    9. We Are Very Unhealthy - this is mostly because of the food

    10. We Mistake Comfort For Happiness - all the people in the commercials are comfortable, and they are happy. Maybe it's more of a marriage!
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    I am the living embodiment of the socially-awkward penguin.

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    Well, this thread has taken an entertaining turn.

    I think that there are a lot of good things here in the US that we can and should be proud of, but I also think that using that pride to cover up our faults and mistakes is not the best way to handle things.
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    As a person from Michigan, I was going to make a joke about Canadians and their awful driving, but then I remembered that pretty much everyone south of Ohio is a heinous driver. Still, I'm wary of those Ontario and Quebec plates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 93JC View Post
    Oh, perhaps. I don't think you understand why I was playfully teasing you and 'Murrica. All goes back to what Red Herring said about having to walk on eggshells around Americans because any perceived slight against their country gets blown out of proportion and people start calling other people Goebbels and such for DARING to say something that might upset an American.

    The fact that it all just flew over your head is hilarious.
    Last time I checked I haven't mentioned Goebbels.

    I take umbrage to your statement that one has to walk on eggshells around all Americans.

    We do love our country more than most citizens abroad. But you know what, when your country has been the unquestioned global power as long as we have, without resorting to Tyranny, despotism, or dictatorship, and it tries to give aid to poorer nations, as well as subsidize the security of nations whose citizens love to criticize us, it's hard not to have a slightly more attached relationship to one's country.

    Feel free to criticize us, but refrain from saying all Americans are this that or the other thing.

    - their so fat
    - so stupid
    - too patriotic
    - self obsessed
    - ignorant of the world

    etc...

    Not a single one of those applies to all of us. If you want to criticize America... fine.

    But criticize America, not the stereotypes you heap upon it's citizens.

    Criticize the willingness of our country to go to war. Not how dumb the citizens are for buying into the story that our government feeds us.

    Criticize the lack of healthy living initiatives in the US. Not how fat and lazy all Americans must be.

    Criticize our convoluted tax code, not how greedy we all must be.

    I hope you can see where I'm going with this.

    If you're an American, I'm more willing to take criticisms of the populace, but if your not, you don't have the right to make those generalizations, whether they be about those on our political left or right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 93JC View Post
    I am the living embodiment of the socially-awkward penguin.
    Maybe you're a perfectly fine duck just waiting to take off the tux...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarelle View Post
    Seems pretty accurate to me. I loved the Wonka meme
    So did I, although I love most of them.

    My brother worked with an American guy his IT firm once, he works to US schedules and not our own so works days that he would be off if he worked, for instance, for the health service instead, anyway, so he got to spend a lot of time with this guy and he told me how this guy was probably your joe average American but living here in Northern Ireland, which I would classify as indifferent to the US rather than anti-American, unless you're talking to some lunatic from the socialist workers party, had made him into a super patriot neo-con agenda for a new american century or whatever its called loon.

    So I guess it works both ways, getting away may not have the perspective shifting effect this guy suggests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Last time I checked I haven't mentioned Goebbels.
    Hello? Hello? Is anybody home? Think McFly, think!

    I didn't say you did, I said Red Herring did.

    I take umbrage to your statement that one has to walk on eggshells around all Americans.

    <blah blah blah>
    The fact that you "take umbrage" with ANYTHING I've said is just proof positive that Red Herring was correct in the first place. The fact that you just don't get it is what I and everyone else (judging by the number of 'reps' I quickly got) find terribly amusing.


    Go back and read what you wrote, think about why you wrote it, and then read what everyone else wrote too to give your comments context. Red Herring said she finds Americans very quick to overreact to any perceived criticism. Amargith said she noticed it too, and notes that to be as sensitive and 'patriotic' in Belgium would seem ridiculous. Red Herring agreed and compared Amargith's Belgian example to the playful patriotism that Germans exhibit at sporting events. Then YOU got all "IN THE U.S. PATRIOTISM MEANS MORE THAN THAT", as if she'd told you to fuck your own mother.

    Randomnity came in to try and smooth things over by pointing out the obvious: that Red Herring was talking about Germany not about the U.S., to which you replied with a snarky "Good."



    Can you REALLY not tell that everyone else would perceive your posts as feeding right back into that goofy jingoistic stereotype Red Herring brought up in the first place?

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