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    And people living in non-suburban areas aren't just as selfish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    Are you saying I shouldn't live here, work here and be a homeowner here because you can't be?
    Nope. I'm saying the government shouldn't be giving you an extra break (through the home mortgage interest deduction) simply because you're already well off enough that you can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelchairdoug View Post
    Nope. I'm saying the government shouldn't be giving you an extra break (through the home mortgage interest deduction) simply because you're already well off enough that you can be.
    Yeah...I'm not too concerned about middle class families having a little more money to spend, even if it is "unfair". That's pretty far down on my list of priorities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelchairdoug View Post
    Nope. I'm saying the government shouldn't be giving you an extra break (through the home mortgage interest deduction) simply because you're already well off enough that you can be.
    Do you really think the mortgage interest deduction makes up for the 20k or so in taxes we pay, including city tax in a city we don't even live in, only work in? Why is that fair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    Do you really think the mortgage interest deduction makes up for the 20k or so in taxes we pay, including city tax in a city we don't even live in, only work in? Why is that fair?
    I didn't say it was. However, I'm sure there are renters in your situation as well- think of how much worse their situation is. And either way, how is a benefit received due to federal housing-related policy in any way related to the- or supposed to alleviate- the unfairness of city tax policy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Yeah...I'm not too concerned about middle class families having a little more money to spend, even if it is "unfair". That's pretty far down on my list of priorities.
    This is probably where our approaches differ. I'm planning on being middle class, but with my physical disability and all, I'll probably need to stay in a renting situation. So for me, it's about the middle class guy having less to spend (and getting screwed over once again, blah blah etc.) , and so it's pretty far up there on my list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    Do you really think the mortgage interest deduction makes up for the 20k or so in taxes we pay, including city tax in a city we don't even live in, only work in? Why is that fair?
    What country do you live in? I don't pay anything close to 20K. When I was married, we paid 1K fed taxes per year and my ex had close to a 6 figure income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    Do you really think the mortgage interest deduction makes up for the 20k or so in taxes we pay, including city tax in a city we don't even live in, only work in? Why is that fair?
    ok you work in the city you use their roads and infastructers but don't think you should pay a tax? please explain to me how that works
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelchairdoug View Post
    This is probably where our approaches differ. I'm planning on being middle class, but with my physical disability and all, I'll probably need to stay in a renting situation. So for me, it's about the middle class guy having less to spend (and getting screwed over once again, blah blah etc.) , and so it's pretty far up there on my list.
    This only makes no sense unless you're in a "misery loves company" state of mind.

    I think corporate corruption and overseas outsourcing are bigger problems to focus on. Call me crazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    ok you work in the city you use their roads and infastructers but don't think you should pay a tax? please explain to me how that works
    She doesn't use the roads and infrastructure as much as people who live there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    ok you work in the city you use their roads and infastructers but don't think you should pay a tax? please explain to me how that works
    My husband has an office in a major city that collects city taxes from people employed in that city. He is at is office one day a month at most. He also pays for parking when he is there, it's not provided in a lot or reimbursed by his office. We pay taxes to the township where we live, of course. I have no issue with the volunteer fire department and the roads are well kept by the county. We live on a private road and paid for the paving of that road (along with some other residents. Some portions are gravel since some did not elect to pave) as well as snow removal. We pay for our own trash pickup as well.
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