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    Politically in the USA, I'm sick of having the choice of either a Big mac or a Whopper. That's why I'm inviting everyone to participate in this thread to create your own political platform. I'll start.

    Hwaet!

    Effective immediately:

    A British Romantic/American Tanscendentalist/fascist/pan-nationalist/Anti-Humanist/Intellectual Meritocracy materializes.

    Ideas:

    A. Environment - The environment is considerably more important than humanity. I hope to change the outlook we currently have on the environment to "we are a part of nature" rather than "we are apart of nature". Everyone is not created equal and therefore, everyone does not have the right to live.
    1. Overpopulation - enact a one child policy, Sterilize individuals unfit for breeding, Enact the right to die, Cut off individuals that have been deemed "able to survive, if and only on life support"
    1a. Education - Give every community member with enough education to function within society with the opportunity of advancement (which is encouraged).
    2a. Multiculturalism - eradicate. Cultures have different beliefs than others and some can not coexist. Therefore, they should practice their customs free of others in their own community. See 2b.

    B. Global economy - eradicate "complete" dependency on foreign goods and focus on what materials we have i.e local first. Obviously, it's impossible to rely entirely on local goods but I would want to become as independent as possible from foreign aid/goods.
    1b. Regulated Capitalism with severe Economic regulation of large corporations i.e bye bye corporations.
    2b. Communities/tribes - People are different as well as their beliefs. Racially, ethnically, dialectically, mentally, physically, culturally etc. This should be celebrated, for difference shows diversity/uniqueness.

    C. Technology - All progress is never beneficial. I.e. Solving problems with problems.
    1c. Transportation - offer free public bicycles, independent of petrol/bio alternatives, teach/demonstrate that physical health has just as much merit as intellectual health.
    2c. Science - Environmental impact priority #1
    3c. Health care - free. Promote an independence from medicine as much as possible.
    I may be bested in battle, but I shall never be defeated.

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    Wow, that whole post is terrifying in its fascism.

    My platform: liberty and equality before the law. Period.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Wow, that whole post is terrifying in its fascism.

    My platform: liberty and equality before the law. Period.
    And no equality without first, liberty.

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    This is for the U.S.


    Energy policy/environment:

    -Lots of investment in research and development for new types of nuclear power, solar, wind, more efficient biofuels, more energy efficient cars, electric cars, etc.

    -Loan programs for the above sources of power (To help spread out the startup costs.) this would be in addition to anything banks, environmental groups, etc. were doing.

    -Reduction of subsidies supporting oil/coal/gas use.

    -Attempts through negotiations with city planners, states, etc. to reduce the amount of car travel required, the amount of energy buildings use, and other such changes. (Mortgage law changes, or other housing law changes, might also be used here.)

    Fiscal policies;

    -In order to help deal with the large budget deficits to go away or at least go down, policies would be designed around removing subsidies or increasing taxes, rather than spending money or adding more subsidies to get similar effects.

    -Simplified tax system, Income tax would either be a flat system, or a system of "add up the total income, plug it into the tax equation in the calculator, and get your taxes out." The only deduction might be for the first 2 kids, or on incomes lower than a certain amount. (What actually would be considered income might be up for grabs, I'd probably consider it wages, stock income, expense accounts, other similar types. Gifts would be based on sales price. There are some complication for things like inheritances, gifts, etc., that depend on other taxes, and how these transactions tend to work, that I don't have enough direct experience with to include in here.)

    -Sales taxes might be added as well.

    -Social security would likely be adjusted to give out more money to people with less savings, (less money of course to people with more.) with the adjustment done in such a way that the total amount of money spent goes down or stays the same as it is now.

    -As Pure mercury suggested, the various welfare, social security, etc. programs might be merged with taxes and combined into one thing.

    -Sudden jumps would be changed to smooth progressions.

    -Government owned land used for mining, logging, farming, etc. would charge similar prices for the extraction as might be expected from private owners of land. Some of this money would go to states where the land is in.


    I might add more later, if I think of other changes.


    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Wow, that whole post is terrifying in its fascism.

    My platform: liberty and equality before the law. Period.
    Interpreted to mean whatever your audience thinks it means, I'm sure.

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    Wow Noel, you're even scarier than the current presidential candidates.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Wow, that whole post is terrifying in its fascism.

    My platform: liberty and equality before the law. Period.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Wow Noel, you're even scarier than the current presidential candidates.
    Have both of you read The Doctrine of Fascism? It's a fascinating read.

    And Lateralus, I'd appreciate it if you contributed your party platform.
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    A. Environment - Humanity and the environment are interdependent on each other. It should be man's obligation to protect the environment. Whether it is from pollution or earth killing celestial objects. Everyone is created equal before the law and therefore, everyone has the same rights as everyone else.

    1. Overpopulation - Allow for gay marriage and promote adoption.
    2 Multiculturalism - Embrace diversity. Every culture contributes and conflict is a necessary part of life and evolution.

    B. Global economy - encourage markets at home, but continue to embrace global trade.
    1b. Government regulated Capitalism and Market regulated Socialism. (I'm still working on that one)
    2b. Communities/tribes - People are different as well as their beliefs. Racially, ethnically, dialectically, mentally, physically, culturally etc. This should be celebrated, for difference shows diversity/uniqueness.

    C.Technology - The consequences of progress should be weighed, but progress should be encouraged.
    1c. Transportation - offer free public bicycles, independent of petrol/bio alternatives, teach/demonstrate that physical health has just as much merit as intellectual health.
    2c. Science - Environmental impact priority #1
    3c. Health care - universal. Promote an independence from medicine as much as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zergling View Post
    -Social security would likely be adjusted to give out more money to people with less savings, (less money of course to people with more.) with the adjustment done in such a way that the total amount of money spent goes down or stays the same as it is now.
    Wouldn't making Social Security means-tested make it not Social Security at all at that point, but welfare instead?
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noel View Post
    Have both of you read The Doctrine of Fascism? It's a fascinating read.

    And Lateralus, I'd appreciate it if you contributed your party platform.
    Nope, never read it.

    My platform is shut up and get out of my space.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Wouldn't making Social Security means-tested make it not Social Security at all at that point, but welfare instead?
    I guess it would, in a sense (Though whether that is a good or bad thing depends on point of view.) I wouldn't want to make it a big difference (Maybe the highest payouts would be something like 1.5-2x the lowest) The main reason I would want to adjust it this way is to use the money more effectively for keeping older people financially stable, which is what the original purpose seemed to be for. (people with lots of money would thus need less social security.)

    Whether or not it was intended though, your post did get me thinking while writing this one that merging a lot of the payout programs together (Children, unemployment, etc.) could probably be merged together in some way, which would fit with some of the rest of the stuff written in the platform.

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