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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
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    ... I saw the Texas Republican party's official statement on gays "destroying the fabric of society" earlier today
    Tell me you're joking. Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    .. I think I'm in love.

    (or, rather, I was until he talked about sucking the big one. Oh, yeah, that was a joke.)



    ... I saw the Texas Republican party's official statement on gays "destroying the fabric of society" earlier today, but missed their stance against higher-order thinking skills. It's pretty amazing that they feel comfortable enough to just come right out and stress that up front. But I guess it's a good thing, because then people can see what they truly represent at least...



    yeah. That's how much they've inbred. They don't realize how stupid they sound saying stuff like that.
    Now, come on, it's not like the Pennsyltucky GOP is a bastion of free thought and critical inquiry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    .. I think I'm in love.

    (or, rather, I was until he talked about sucking the big one. Oh, yeah, that was a joke.)

    ... I saw the Texas Republican party's official statement on gays "destroying the fabric of society" earlier today, but missed their stance against higher-order thinking skills. It's pretty amazing that they feel comfortable enough to just come right out and stress that up front. But I guess it's a good thing, because then people can see what they truly represent at least...

    yeah. That's how much they've inbred. They don't realize how stupid they sound saying stuff like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Now, come on, it's not like the Pennsyltucky GOP is a bastion of free thought and critical inquiry.
    How 'bout them Florida Republicans?

    I heard the worst ones come from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Tell me you're joking. Please.
    Uh.. no. Same thing the guy showed in the YouTube video above. Everything is apparently "destroying the fabric of society."

    You can see the 30-page platform at:
    http://www.texasgop.org/about-the-party

    here's the excerpt about families:
    STRENGTHENING FAMILIES, PROTECTING LIFE AND PROMOTING HEALTH
    CELEBRATING TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE
    Family and Defense of Marriage ― We support the definition of marriage as a God-ordained, legal and moral commitment only between a natural man and a natural woman, which is the foundational unit of a healthy society, and we oppose the assault on marriage by judicial activists. We call on the President and Congress to take immediate action to defend the sanctity of marriage. We are resolute that Congress exercise authority under the United States Constitution, and pass legislation withholding jurisdiction from the Federal Courts in cases involving family law, especially any changes in the definition of marriage. We further call on Congress to pass and the state legislatures to ratify a marriage amendment declaring that marriage in the United States shall consist of and be recognized only as the union of a natural man and a natural woman. Neither the United States nor any state shall recognize or grant to any unmarried person the legal rights or status of a spouse. We oppose the recognition of and granting of benefits to people who represent themselves as domestic partners without being legally married. We advocate the repeal of laws that place an unfair tax burden on families. We call upon Congress to completely remove the marriage penalty in the tax code, whereby a married couple receives a smaller standard deduction than their unmarried counterparts living together. The primary family unit consists of those related by blood, heterosexual marriage, or adoption. The family is responsible for its own welfare, education, moral training, conduct, and property.
    Judicial Activism in Marriage ― We support marriage and oppose the assault on marriage by judicial activists.
    Enforcement of the Defense of Marriage Act ― We support the enforcement of the State and Federal Defense of Marriage Act by state and federal officials respectively, and oppose creation, recognition and benefits for partnerships outside of marriage that are being provided by some political subdivisions.
    Marriage and Divorce - We believe in the sanctity of marriage and that the integrity of this institution should be protected at all levels of government. We urge the Legislature to rescind no-fault divorce laws. We support Covenant Marriage.
    Family Values ― We support the affirmation of traditional Judeo-Christian family values and oppose the continued assault on those values.
    Supporting Motherhood ― We strongly support women who choose to devote their lives to their families and raising their children. We recognize their sacrifice and deplore the liberal assault on the family.
    Human Trafficking ― The Republican Party of Texas adamantly opposes any form of human trafficking.
    Homosexuality ― We affirm that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society and contributes to the breakdown of the family unit. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle, in public policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.” We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin. Additionally, we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction or belief in traditional values.
    Pornography ― We encourage the enforcement of laws regarding all forms of pornography, because pornography is detrimental to the fabric of society.
    note all the "warlike" language -- every disagreement with their policy is some kind of "assault" on them.

    The part about education was this particular passage:
    Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.
    To be fair, maybe they just suck at actually communicating what they mean -- it's possible these are proper names of particular programs, so I'd have to get a sense of each to know what they're really reacting against. But they sure didn't care about how they phrased things.

    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Now, come on, it's not like the Pennsyltucky GOP is a bastion of free thought and critical inquiry.
    I have no defense... except to say PA typically has gone democratic in the last few Presidential elections, so at least we try to pay for our sins.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    How 'bout them Florida Republicans?

    I heard the worst ones come from there.
    And worse, they all have tans while I'm as white as a fish!
    Creeps.
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    @Jennifer I don't even know which is worse. California having a hard time trying to pass anything to bring down the debt (except cutting... because it doesn't require a 2/3 majority).... or Texas' ability to pass almost anything like this without trying.

    @iwakar and anybody else in Texas... save your state..... PLEASE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    And worse, they all have tans while I'm as white as a fish!
    Creeps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    It blows me away that they've become so unabashedly authoritarian.
    It doesn't surprise me. I grew up around people who share these beliefs (anti-science, pro-government-in-the-bedroom, etc).
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rail Tracer View Post
    @Jennifer I don't even know which is worse. California having a hard time trying to pass anything to bring down the debt (except cutting... because it doesn't require a 2/3 majority).... or Texas' ability to pass almost anything like this without trying.

    @iwakar and anybody else in Texas... save your state..... PLEASE!
    This wasn't a law; it was only a party platform. Don't despair, however. This is a blessing in disguise, because it clearly sets forth the corporatist agenda without masking language. They want unquestioning obedience, and to disregard anything that contradicts them, up to and including the US Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    It doesn't surprise me. I grew up around people who share these beliefs (anti-science, pro-government-in-the-bedroom, etc).
    Me too, but they usually tempered it with a sense of "render unto Caesar." What's odd to me is that the party leadership isn't even trying to hide their ambitions for unquestioned authority over the state anymore. They're admitting that they want to actively suppress dissent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Me too, but they usually tempered it with a sense of "render unto Caesar." What's odd to me is that the party leadership isn't even trying to hide their ambitions for unquestioned authority over the state anymore. They're admitting that they want to actively suppress dissent.
    Texans live in an alternate reality. To them, this isn't controversial, they believe that everyone will follow their lead because they're Texas...go Longhorns! go Cowboys!
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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