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    Quote Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy View Post
    It's not simply a tool, it's a tool of death. High school killings, random gangland killings etc etc

    It's a simple choice the right to own firearms
    Against : pro life
    For : pro death.
    But the thing is, the bad guys always have or get and abuse guns. So ostensibly both sides of this are counter-intuitive as well. Bad guys hurt people. So good guys have to be able to defend themselves. So kinda as you've analogized this...
    Translation of the counter-intuitive: For: Pro-life. Against: Pro-death
    Translation of the common-sense: For: Pro-death. Against: Pro-life
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I would be delighted not to worry about America (the USA) if you would remove your military bases from Australian soil, if you would take your armed Marines home to America from Darwin, if you would stop using Australian soil as a bombing range for your B-52 bombers, if you would keep your nuclear submarines and your nuclear aircraft carriers out of Australian ports, and if you would stop stationing your fighter planes in our airports.

    I would be pleased if American (USA) military personel were subject to Australian Law in Australia. And I would be pleased if America followed the example of civilized countries and joined the Internationa Criminal Court (ICC).

    I would be happy not to worry about America (the USA) if you would keep your National Rifle Association at home, if you would stop sending your propaganda movies from Hollywood, and if you would stop sending your pornography from California.

    I would be smiling if the Vice-President of America (the USA) would stop calling our journalist, Julian Assange, a terrorist. I would be smiling if you had not empanelled a Grand Jury in a dormitory suburb of the CIA in Virginia to bring down a secret Indictment of Julian Assange, a journalist. I would be smiling if you would cease carrying out Rendition, particularly attempting to carry out Rendition of Julian Assange from Sweden to the USA where he will receive 'enhanced' interrogation leading to the death penalty for espionage.

    And I would be pleased if you would follow Australia's example and get your banking system in order.
    Hmm..it looks like there's a lot more issues you're concerned with than was mentioned before. Well, that's a different conversation. The sole reason for my response was on referring to voting.
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    First and foremost.... lurk more.

    Secondly:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy View Post
    If that was aimed at me i don't read propoganda.
    How about in the fifty years you have spent 1000's of billions on weapons
    & the people who live in your ghettos still live in slums?
    why is britain above america in lowest living standards if you are & have been
    the richest country in the world for fifty plus years?
    I don't listen to propoganda from crazy batshit americans thank you.
    Oh it was most certainly aimed at you.

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    The more you say, the more appropriate the video I posted becomes.

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    I have noticed a cognitive dissonance amongst a certain subset of the American society: A lot of people who are distrustful of the US gov't and protest things such as the Patriot Act and SOPA are also pro-gun control. So the same people who fear that the government is encroaching on their rights and personal liberties also believe that the only entity that should have access to the deadly force is the same entity that is actively trying to undermine their liberties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    I have noticed a cognitive dissonance amongst a certain subset of the American society: A lot of people who are distrustful of the US gov't and protest things such as the Patriot Act and SOPA are also pro-gun control. So the same people who fear that the government is encroaching on their rights and personal liberties also believe that the only entity that should have access to the deadly force is the same entity that is actively trying to undermine their liberties.
    Thinking that the only ones allowed to carry deadly force are the ones that are properly trained for it is not the same is saying that those people, such as the police, are controlled by the goverment. Which in our countries not the case at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Thinking that the only ones allowed to carry deadly force are the ones that are properly trained for it is not the same is saying that those people, such as the police, are controlled by the goverment. Which in our countries not the case at all.
    I have nothing against safety training requirements for gun owners. In fact, I believe most states already have that in place.

    Anyway, here is a good gun safety demonstration by a properly trained police officer:

    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxWWJaTEdD0"]Gun Safety[/YOUTUBE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    I have nothing against safety training requirements for gun owners. In fact, I believe most states already have that in place.

    Anyway, here is a good gun safety demonstration by a properly trained police officer:

    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxWWJaTEdD0"]Gun Safety[/YOUTUBE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by phobik View Post
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    I wish.
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