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    How do you feel about the bombing of those two cities?

    I've just gotten done reading a book detailing some first hand accounts, it was an interesting read.

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    One positive outcome: these events showed the world unequivocally the destructive consequences of employing nuclear weapons. Sooner or later, someone was bound to use one. Perhaps better that it was these early ones than the bombs we have now. This knowledge has probably served to deter further use, at least so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    One positive outcome: these events showed the world unequivocally the destructive consequences of employing nuclear weapons. Sooner or later, someone was bound to use one. Perhaps better that it was these early ones than the bombs we have now. This knowledge has probably served to deter further use, at least so far.
    Yes, and I've seen some historical debate about whether the bombs saved lives ultimately, compared to what would have happened if the war had continue and Japan hadn't pulled out.

    However, speaking totally from the perspective of Japanese civilians, after seeing numerous pictures and reading authentic narrative accounts of people's experiences on that day and the kind of damage the city and people took.... just horrifically devastating, to the point of leaving me feeling ill to my stomach. "Interesting" doesn't even come close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Yes, and I've seen some historical debate about whether the bombs saved lives ultimately, compared to what would have happened if the war had continue and Japan hadn't pulled out.

    However, speaking totally from the perspective of Japanese civilians, after seeing numerous pictures and reading authentic narrative accounts of people's experiences on that day and the kind of damage the city and people took.... just horrifically devastating, to the point of leaving me feeling ill to my stomach. "Interesting" doesn't even come close.

    So, your official stance on the subject? Say you had to give the order to either use the bomb or invade sometime today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jontherobot View Post
    So, your official stance on the subject? Say you had to give the order to either use the bomb or invade sometime today.
    I don't know what I would do.

    Remember the guy in Saving Private Ryan? The journalist?

    Some of us are suited for war and/or for commanding people to their deaths. I'm not one of those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I don't know what I would do.

    Remember the guy in Saving Private Ryan? The journalist?

    Some of us are suited for war and/or for commanding people to their deaths. I'm not one of those people.

    Interesting.

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    I know the Japanese participated in monstreous acts before the bombings, with most notably the Nanking massacre. But I find that the Japanese are now one of the most evolved societies on the face of the earth.

    The fall of the Empire of Japan, was the birth of a great nation.

    Ofcourse, that's 20-20 hindsight. I truely think the bombings were by all means horrific acts and great wrong-doings. But I can't deny we're better of now. I'm just saddened that this is what it took to get us there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    I know the Japanese participated in monstreous acts before the bombings, with most notably the Nanking massacre. But I find that the Japanese are now one of the most evolved societies on the face of the earth.

    The fall of the Empire of Japan, was the birth of a great nation.

    Ofcourse, that's 20-20 hindsight. I truely think the bombings were by all means horrific acts and great wrong-doings. But I can't deny we're better of now. I'm just saddened that this is what it took to get us there.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gish View Post
    I'm not sure what your point is. I was talking about Japan post-bombings. And I also did say they were an horrible bunch before.

    But should that be reason to justify doing equally as horrible things to civilians by dropping bombs on them?
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    Although the fact that USA granted officials of Unit 731 immunity from prosucution provided they were to share their results makes you wonder.
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