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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Today it is blue collar guys who are in demise; but upper class guys and middle class guys are thriving.
    For now.. The "lost generation" is yet to reach maturity. And without changes to education (or social policy) to re-engage boys, the future doesn't look so rosy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post
    Basically he's addressing idiots, but since the medium and in being mediocre is well described as in being a drunktard who yells at a TV in a pub during a Superbowl game is not applicable to the 'intellectuals' noble pursuits and all that bullshit.
    This is a good example of what I mean when I say INTJs don't know how to construct coherent sentences.
    I mean... is it me? Or is that just gibberish? Perhaps someone with a degree in Ni obfuscation can help me out?

    what we've got here is discrimination and I say it again DISCRIMINATION against people with low motor control, porn watching didn't make it so, and I would call it a tragedy if said person with low motor control decided to practice the moves he had learned through porn.
    While facetious, you actually have a sensible point (even if you didn't intend to make it).

    Freely available porn (for adolescent males) is the equivalent of making alcohol freely available to alcoholics.
    Perhaps it's a feminist conspiracy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Freely available porn (for adolescent males) is the equivalent of making alcohol freely available to alcoholics.
    Nah. It's very far from being a substitute for sex.
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    Many men would disagree, unfortunately.
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Many men would disagree, unfortunately.
    Feel free to quote one of these "many men".

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    I think sometimes it can just become a substitute for sex for men, because it's easier than dealing with the emotional drama/responsibility involved in building a LTR, which is more than just about sex. (Not that women don't have outlets as well that can be used at times to avoid the intricacies of dealing with another person.)
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

    “Pleasure to me is wonder—the unexplored, the unexpected, the thing that is hidden and the changeless thing that lurks behind superficial mutability. To trace the remote in the immediate; the eternal in the ephemeral; the past in the present; the infinite in the finite; these are to me the springs of delight and beauty.” ~ H.P. Lovecraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Many men would disagree, unfortunately.
    Eh, most likely because they haven't had access to sex as of yet (which is IME the case for many adolescents...).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    It's not quite that random. The beneficial gene is often preferentially selected.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skewed_X-inactivation
    See, this is what I find humorous: citing a particular principle related to X-inactivation without addressing the underlying driving factors. We know that with certain X-linked disorders, there is a preferential deactivation of the damaged chromosome. So, we must ask ourselves, by what mechanism does this process take place? Clearly there isn't some fairly who dances around the genes picking the best ones for the woman. It is likely that some damaged genes aren't as robust with respect to the factors affecting the activation/deactivation process, causing them to have a greater likelihood of being deactivated. It isn't necessarily true that this would be the case with all variations in the X-chromosome pool. Further, it seems likely that major defects in the Chromosome would produce this effect with greater probability. I'll look into finding some research to support or refute this. Stand by.

    That said, the fact that there is Skewed X-Inactivation (which I considered when I initially thought about this) doesn't change the fact that, on average, there would likely be less observed variation in the female population. It only suggests that the average would be higher than it would otherwise. If there were a relatively beneficial X-Chromosome present in a population, even with skewed X-inactivation a woman wouldn't express that chromosome at a 100% rate, whereas a man would. Again, I'm not suggesting that this is the cause for the greater variation among men, only that it could be a factor; and, of course, so could a host of social propensities.




    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Dont assume. Read. Your logic isn't good enough to suppose you can figure this out intuitively.
    I've provided the material. I'm not prepared to discuss this anymore if you refuse to redeem yourself from ignorance.
    Duly noted. Although, my guess is that I'm correct (e.g. that the Y-chromosome is evolving via the process I mentioned). I would like to mention that I'm not suggesting that the genetic mutations are achieved by the same mechanisms (they're not), but that the selection process is the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Eh, most likely because they haven't had access to sex as of yet (which is IME the case for many adolescents...).
    I have read a few articles (one regarding Japanese men comes to mind) that seem to suggest that internet porn is being used as a substitute for sex. And, from personal experience, I can tell you that if I didn't have a way to release my sexual urges I would be much more likely to put up with a shitty girl just to get sex. As it stands now, I'm able to be more particular because I have adequate sexual outlets.
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    Yea ! The times of free 60s kid education are over. Its time for Zucht und Ordnung again with our little boys !

    [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBvftJUwDw&t=0s[/URL]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    If there were a relatively beneficial X-Chromosome present in a population, even with skewed X-inactivation a woman wouldn't express that chromosome at a 100% rate, whereas a man would.
    No. You don't "express" chromosomes. There is no such thing as a "beneficial X chromosome" vs a "non-beneficial" one. Not only that, as has already been pointed out, something like 15% of genes in the "inactive X" actually get expressed. It's not as simple as "on or off".
    God. I regret relaunching this thread.
    What amazes me about you is your aggressive confidence in the face of your staggering ignorance.
    It's the very definition of arrogance. And it makes me unwilling to spend time educating you.

    Duly noted. Although, my guess is that I'm correct (e.g. that the Y-chromosome is evolving via the process I mentioned). I would like to mention that I'm not suggesting that the genetic mutations are achieved by the same mechanisms (they're not), but that the selection process is the same.
    No.
    Wouldn't it be preferable to do your research BEFORE responding? That way you are less likely to appear foolish. And it would give you something more to say than "I think I'm right".
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