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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    So @Mane and @Zarathustra, Im sorry to hear that. Were you actually injured in the incidents or physically afraid of her? Im seriously asking.
    Thank you for your genuine concern.

    Let me ask you, would you be afraid of a crazy bitch with a knife?

    And, if that same crazy bitch is hitting you in the face repeatedly, but has not yet gone so far as to grab a knife, although there is one in the other room, and you feel there's at least a reasonable chance she might go that far, but you feel that, the way the system currently works, if you even try to restrain her, that you will be far more likely to be arrested and jailed and have this potentially go on your permanent record than her, does this constitute equal protection under the law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    The thread is titled "The Demise of Guys".

    That is what every bit of the discussion that you called "shit" has been about.

    Your pro-woman moralism would have more efficacy if you actually cared about equality.
    Did you even watch the video? It's about video games and porn. And what pro-woman moralism? All I've said this entire thread is that (1) I don't really agree with the stuff being discussed in the TED talk, and (2) I really don't agree with the dumbass lady in that video that someone posted later on. So what the fuck are you talking about?

    Stop acting so goddamn self-righteous and defensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Did you even watch the video?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    And what pro-woman moralism?
    The kind you regularly engage in, and are engaging in here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Stop acting so goddamn self-righteous and defensive.
    How bout you stop trying to trivialize a perspective just because it doesn't fit your agenda.

    If you could see yourself accurately, you'd realize how much you sound like a 19th century male.

    There's a funny thing about self-righteousness: when you're right, it's actually justified (see: Susan B. Anthony).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Yes.

    The kind you regularly engage in, and are engaging in here.

    How bout you stop trying to trivialize a perspective just because it doesn't fit your agenda.

    If you could accurately see yourself accurately, you'd realize how much you sound like a 19th century male.

    There's a funny thing about self-righteousness: when you're right, it's actually justified (see: Susan B. Anthony).
    Are you angry because you agree with that woman in the video?
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    @Zarathustra that does sound scary, and its odd to me that a man could even get in trouble for restraining a woman, that doesn't seem right. How is that possible, especially if she has a weapon or you have marks on you and she doesn't.

    Plus she would have to call the cops on you to begin with.

    Id like to do more research on this subject.

    Im sorry that happened, and I hope since you found her genuinely violent that you broke up with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    This thread is like watching a bizarre variation of a food fight.
    It's morphin' time!

    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Did you even watch the video? It's about video games and porn. And what pro-woman moralism? All I've said this entire thread is that (1) I don't really agree with the stuff being discussed in the TED talk, and (2) I really don't agree with the dumbass lady in that video that someone posted later on. So what the fuck are you talking about?
    No really, I'm surprised myself.

    A TED video talking about video games and porn being the demise of guys. It's obvious that the speaker is part of the old culture(note:Order) of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rail Tracer View Post
    No really, I'm surprised myself.

    A TED video talking about video games and porn being the demise of guys. It's obvious that the speaker is part of the old culture(note:Order) of things.
    Yeah, old-man-afraid-internet.
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    @Mane I didn't mean to miss your post, thanks for sharing your experience, and yes being demeaned by someone you love does stay with you, its insidious.

    However I must say its worse, in my opinion, to be scared of someone you love. My therapist told me you know your safe person can't be your scary person. It causes an unhealthy stress level to love/hate someone, even more than simply hating them.

    My ex gave me whiplash, dragged me down the hall by my hair, and threatened me with other things, as well as putting bruises on my arm with a shoe, and throwing random objects at me.

    Id honestly be interested to talk to men who actually experienced that or worse at the hands of a woman. Actually being afraid or injured. I have friends who have been punched in the face or had bones broken, a friend of mine was stalked by her ex husband and almost killed. My mother has been in a coma because of being beaten, as well as being raped by her second husband brutally while they were separated he broke into the house, and she had bruises on her.

    Im not undermining your experience, but Im truly curious about these men who have been raped, beaten, or even just suffered minor injuries from women...or at least experiencing real fear as Zarathustra expressed.

    The thing that disturbs me is the possibility that a man could actually get in trouble for merely restraining a woman, that isn't right at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Are you angry because you agree with that woman in the video?
    No.

    But your ignorance as to why I've responded as I have underlies something fundamental that you obviously don't understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Zarathustra that does sound scary, and its odd to me that a man could even get in trouble for restraining a woman, that doesn't seem right. How is that possible, especially if she has a weapon or you have marks on you and she doesn't.
    It becomes a game of he-said, she-said.

    Try asking men who they think the law will side with: them, or the woman.

    My sister married a cop, and his stories are always very enlightening.

    And I assure you, they fall in line with exactly what I'm saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Plus she would have to call the cops on you to begin with.
    No she wouldn't.

    If the neighbors were to call the cops (which is common in these scenarios), that would be the likely outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    No.

    But your ignorance as to why I've responded as I have underlies something fundamental that you obviously don't understand.
    Then you're being pissy because you don't think I'm treating your pet issue of woman-on-man abuse with sufficient reverence, which I suppose you take as a dismissal of its seriousness or importance.

    Rest assured that I do not think that any kind of abuse is a matter to be treated lightly, and there certainly are problems with the way that woman-on-man violence is treated both in the eyes of the law and society in general (which I think, just like in the case of the MRA's other pet issue - child custody - is yet another residual effect of patriarchy), but this is all highly irrelevant to "the demise of men" at the hands of new media. I don't think there is any demise of men to speak of, and if there were I don't think it is likely that it has anything to do with playing video games, or big bad feminists telling women to beat (figuratively or literally) their husbands.

    Anyway, this thread has taken a very "prove that you don't hate men" turn which I find offensive and childish. Moreover, your self-righteousness and victim posturing are unbecoming and unjustified.
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