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    Has anyone had the courage to see it?
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

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    Ok, so either no one is willing to go there or no one knows what it is

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepr...iacs#section_1

    These guys from ukraine were implicated in a 21 murder spree in a less than three week span.

    "Most of the victims were killed using blunt objects, including hammers and steel construction bars. Blows were often directed at the victims' faces, leaving them unrecognizable. Many victims were also mutilated and tortured, and some had their eyes gouged out while they were still alive. One of the victims was a pregnant woman, whose fetus was cut out of her womb."

    They video recorded a lot of their acts and it became a underground viral video. So, do you think you could watch it? What do you think drove them to it?

    "The three suspects attended school together, [27] and by the eighth grade they had found some common ground. "Me and Igor [Suprunyuck] were both afraid of heights, and we were afraid we'd be beaten up by bullies", Sayenko stated during questioning. Suprunyuck went looking for advice on getting rid of their fears, which led the two boys to stand on a balcony of their 14th floor apartment for hours, hanging over the railing. This reportedly had a positive effect on their fear of heights. Hanzha was reportedly the most squeamish of the three. He had blood phobia, and would even refuse to give a bath to his kitten, afraid he might scald it. Suprunyuck suggested tackling the fears by torturing stray dogs. The boys would capture dogs in a wooded area near their house, hang them from trees, disembowel them, and take pictures standing next to the corpses. Prosecution evidence included many of these photos taken by the suspects while they were underage. Some photos show the boys drawing swastikas and other symbols with animal blood, and giving the Nazi salute. In one photo, Suprunyuck poses sporting a "Hitler moustache". Suprunyuck was born on April 20, the same day as Adolf Hitler, and often made references to the fact. [4][28]

    A long video showing the three torturing a white kitten was shown in court. It takes place in their garage. The suspects fashion a cross out of two wooden boards and nail the kitten to it, then shoot at it with two pistols, placing foam and glue in its mouth in order to muffle the kitten's screams. [4][29]"
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    What does courage have to do with the ability to sit through such vile garbage as that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UniqueMixture View Post
    So, do you think you could watch it?
    I did watch it, it's one of the more graphic things that I've seen.

    The horror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthtrekker1775 View Post
    What does courage have to do with the ability to sit through such vile garbage as that?
    Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear.

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    Or so says Samuel Clemens
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    they were a afraid of being bullied and so they went around beating an killing other people and this is courage?
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    Sociopath = Courage?



    I'm not really a fan of gore porn so no thank you.

    There is a big difference between "fear of something that scares me/fear of reminders of my own mortality" and "aversion to something I find distasteful" and "empathy for living things".

    Unless I am a prosecutor, investigator, journalist, victim advocate, or other agent working on this case or trying to analyze it or report on it, etc. I have absolutely no desire to watch any living thing being tortured and killed. Even simulated I have my standards (zombies and the undead? Okay! soldiers in a simulated war game? Okay. Running down homeless people with a car for money? No thank you)

    Even if you have a morbid curiosity to view things like that, I think the term "courage" is far from applicable.

    What exactly do you think one needs courage to view? Violence in any context or torture committed. Torture committed someone in power against the helpless?
    “If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.” ― Oscar Wilde

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    Hmmm I think this is real shit. Most people are too afraid to face it. I think there is something to be said for emotional resilience even with horrible things.

    To me, ignoring horror is a kind of negligence
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    are you suggesting people should watch it, instead of looking away? if so, why?

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    Could I watch it? Sure. Do I have any intention of doing so? No.

    I really don't think that being able to watch something like that has anything to do with courage.
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