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    So my aunt and uncle are big time Republicans. That being said... My uncle is probably the biggest hypocrite I've ever met. When he actually has a job he complains about people on unemployment and how they are bums and don't even try and find a job they just live off the system.... The irony here is, he's lost several jobs (he's in sales...and would be good at it if he were better at reading people) over the last few years. The last two times that he's lost his job and gone on unemployment, he doesn't even try and look for a job until his unemployment runs out. He's actually the second self-proclaimed Republican I know that does this. I'm sure there are some Liberals that go against the grain as well, but I don't know all that many Liberals, so I can't think of any examples at the moment.

    How can someone complain about Liberals being lazy and wanting freebies, when they do the same thing? It just frustrates me when people bash others, only to do the exact same thing themselves and never make the connection! Anyone else ever seen people claiming to be a Democrat/Republican and totally against [insert issue] only to do it themselves?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Harmony View Post
    How can someone complain about Liberals being lazy and wanting freebies, when they do the same thing?
    Because it can be pretty satisfying to hate on the out group once an a while. Fascism and Nazism were almost entirely built up on this.

    Its easy to think of liberal examples of this but there's not a lot of penetrating analysis of liberalism around, liberals hate too, hate a hell of a lot of the time, although they think they've right on their side even more than most conservatives and dont see it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Because it can be pretty satisfying to hate on the out group once an a while. Fascism and Nazism were almost entirely built up on this.

    Its easy to think of liberal examples of this but there's not a lot of penetrating analysis of liberalism around, liberals hate too, hate a hell of a lot of the time, although they think they've right on their side even more than most conservatives and dont see it that way.
    True. I'm in a predominately Republican area, and my family is mostly Republican as well. Although... My husband's grandfather confuses the hell out of me. He's a Democrat....but he bashes Democrats all the time. I don't get it.

    I think what set me off was a friend of mine complained about unemployment and how it was just for lazy people who didn't want a real job.... And then when he ended up on unemployment and wouldn't look for a job he threw a fit when they terminated his benefits... He's the type that would ask if I knew of any places hiring, and no matter what you told him, he had an excuse why he couldn't do it. It just frustrates me when people make excuses and don't even try.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Harmony View Post
    How can someone complain about Liberals being lazy and wanting freebies, when they do the same thing?
    It is good to make yourself "look higher" than other people. Just sayin' (no, I don't follow this rule or try not to.)

    If a person can't practice what the person preaches, don't preach it.

    But hey, not every one person follows that rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Harmony View Post
    True. I'm in a predominately Republican area, and my family is mostly Republican as well. Although... My husband's grandfather confuses the hell out of me. He's a Democrat....but he bashes Democrats all the time. I don't get it.

    I think what set me off was a friend of mine complained about unemployment and how it was just for lazy people who didn't want a real job.... And then when he ended up on unemployment and wouldn't look for a job he threw a fit when they terminated his benefits... He's the type that would ask if I knew of any places hiring, and no matter what you told him, he had an excuse why he couldn't do it. It just frustrates me when people make excuses and don't even try.
    I think that that tendency to be critical of or berate your own "side" can be a sign of a mature or reflective outlook, you're secure enough to believe that your own perspectives can do with a good critical appraisal without worrying that you'll be betraying anyone or anything by doing so.

    Consider Orwell, he attacked socialism so much that most people remember him as an anti-socialist, despite being a socialist and proving more than once his willingness to endure injury and the threat of torture or death to try and advance that particular cause.

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    In relation to the question of employment I remember a socialist kid from the US agonising about whether or not they should take a job working for McDonalds and whether they could do so in good conscience, I told them that if a socialist was offered a job and refused it I would consider that a greater betrayal of socialism, given that its consistuency is supposed to be working people, not people who refuse work.

    There are a few exceptions now but in the normal run of things working for corporations or businesses isnt betraying socialism. Some sorts of idle unemployment is though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rail Tracer View Post
    It is good to make yourself "look higher" than other people. Just sayin' (no, I don't follow this rule or try not to.)

    If a person can't practice what the person preaches, don't preach it.

    But hey, not every one person follows that rule.
    If only more people thought this way.


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    They're projecting.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Harmony View Post
    So my aunt and uncle are big time Republicans. That being said... My uncle is probably the biggest hypocrite I've ever met. When he actually has a job he complains about people on unemployment and how they are bums and don't even try and find a job they just live off the system.... The irony here is, he's lost several jobs (he's in sales...and would be good at it if he were better at reading people) over the last few years. The last two times that he's lost his job and gone on unemployment, he doesn't even try and look for a job until his unemployment runs out. He's actually the second self-proclaimed Republican I know that does this. I'm sure there are some Liberals that go against the grain as well, but I don't know all that many Liberals, so I can't think of any examples at the moment.

    How can someone complain about Liberals being lazy and wanting freebies, when they do the same thing? It just frustrates me when people bash others, only to do the exact same thing themselves and never make the connection! Anyone else ever seen people claiming to be a Democrat/Republican and totally against [insert issue] only to do it themselves?
    I've seen it with some brogressive types, though it's a bit more subtle, I think. Like, being ideologically anti-racist or pro-women's-rights only to turn around and deny their privilege/make tasteless race/rape jokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    I've seen it with some brogressive types, though it's a bit more subtle, I think. Like, being ideologically anti-racist or pro-women's-rights only to turn around and deny their privilege/make tasteless race/rape jokes.
    Oh yes! That's a perfect example. That kind of thing drives me nuts, too.


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