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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    My cousin married a man. They had children 'for crying out loud'. He came out of the closet and told her he was gay. They divorced, but remain friends. That's what happens in the real world.

    I have brown eyes and some people have blue eyes. So?
    I'm straight and some people are gay. So?

    Someone wants The Green Lantern to come out of the closet. So?
    Oprah gave birth to a martian baby. So?
    I'm only continuing the debate because others are continuing to post. Like I said, I won't lose sleep over this because it just isn't that big of a deal to me. It is arbitrary and stupid though, and an overly aggressive and immature way to get a point across. That won't change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    I'm trying to figure out how my embracing the gay community and having no issue with them, yet having an issue with this makes it all anti-gay then. Hrrmmm.
    Cognitive dissonance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Cognitive dissonance.
    Nah. Social engineering, whatever the topic may be =

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    Nah. Social engineering, whatever the topic may be =
    What you call "social engineering" happens all the time, in many different fields. But you picked this specific topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    What you call "social engineering" happens all the time, in many different fields. But you picked this specific topic.
    Yeah, why not? It made headlines yesterday.

    I'd be happy to see if others want to present other examples. This might turn into more of a thread than a train wreck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    I won't lose sleep over this because it just isn't that big of a deal to me.
    Sure it is. Otherwise, you wouldn't have started this thread.

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    I couldn't care less what the character's sexuality is, as long as it brought up in a way that is relevant to the story. For instance, it makes sense to bring up James Bond's womanizing, or the very squicky relationship between Jaime and Cercei Lannister, because that is important to the plot. Retroactively deciding that Bugs Bunny is gay, on the other hand, serves no purpose and makes about as much sense as tacking on 'the Unambiguously Straight Rabbit' to the title of all Bugs Bunny cartoons.
    Last edited by dala; 06-02-2012 at 07:07 PM. Reason: grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Then that's being angry for "it's not canon" reasons, which is separate from "gay social agenda being imposed on me" anger. The OP is the latter, since he doesn't read comics and has no investment in the story.

    Besides, fucking comic series take all kinds of liberties with characters and storylines. There have already been a shitload since the original Green Lantern. Who gives a shit? I don't understand rigid people (not that you are, BC...I'm just saying in general.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    I have heard there are gay men who have (ex)-wifes and children. But that might just be rumor.
    Weren't there other Green Lanterns, though? I'm not a comics fan, but it does seem odd to me that they picked the one with a wife and kids... I mean, in that case, wouldn't it be a good opportunity to make a bisexual Green Lantern? That'd be pretty cool, I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    In my eyes, it doesn't damage character but in general I'm not a fan of a person's moral convictions being trampled on. While I personally don't have a problem with homosexuality, I know that for many people, in many cultures, they do. If those people aren't infringing on another person's rights, then I believe they are entitled to their moral conviction and for an alternative perspective to be jammed down their throat in the likes of a hero whom many have an emotional investment in, and given no option but to accept it or be looked at as a hateful, homophobe, that is wrong.


    ...Seriously? So they can't, like, not read the comic? So it's simply wrong (rather than just gimmicky) to reveal a character to be a homosexual when there's the possibility that homophobes are reading the story?

    I mean, I don't really think DC did the smartest move here, but... "moral convictions being trampled on"? Should we never show Wonder Woman with her hair uncovered? Or The Flash eating pork? Or Iron Man donning a tattoo?


    My vote for best solution to the whole hubbub:
    * Create character, intending to reveal him as gay;
    * Don't announce his/her sexual orientation ahead of the time;
    * When the time comes, casually show him/her with his/her partner, boy/girlfriend or lover.
    How about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    Where have I said that homosexuality should be kept out of the media? I've only stated the contrary... I'm all for a gay super hero, if that's what comic book writers want to do. See Black Cat's post for more on the issue with Green Lantern.
    Perhaps I misunderstood your point, but you did say your objection was to an agenda where it didn't "belong".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Sure it is. Otherwise, you wouldn't have started this thread.
    ^This guy hasn't seen half of the threads I create. heh heh heh

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