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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    The Communists, all the way.

    The national front in France always sounds freakishly reasonable these days too, I hate that because while they can talk like uncapitalist or anti-capitalist cultural traditionalists they're all closet goose stepping morons dreaming about killing children like in Norway.

    My manifesto would be stupidly simple.

    Taxes, they arent ever getting lower, some people got to get used to that, other people need to start paying them.

    The mixed economy, its here to stay, capitalism and socialism are perfectionist visions and no economy really conforms to either, or can, while an economy may have characteristics of either, as defined by capitalist and conservative ideology, its unlikely to be able to function beyond a certain point with too much of them.

    Sexuality, the majority of people exhibit one sexuality, minorities make different choices, the majority doesnt have to approve of those choices, doesnt even have to be interested and can even be disgusted. The same holds true for the minority too. If your sexuality IS what defines you, you've got a pretty one dimensional personality and dont expect anyone to subsidise, support you or bail you out.

    Race, ethnicity and immigration, no one wants a single flavour of ice cream for the rest of their lives, although diversity being good in either ice cream or culture does not mean there isnt any distinctiveness, nor that people wont have preferences or favourites. Anyone whose culture is threatened by cultural diversity and disparity has a weak ass culture.

    Social conscience, there's a straight dope choice here, you dont like state paternalism well then you're your neighbours keeper. If you cant or wont do a better job then keep out of the way while others perform that role dutifully. And pick up the damn tab you lazy, selfish smuck.

    Criminal justice, very simple, consistent messages, no excuses, no hard luck stories, no technicalities. Wrong doing is going to be made unpopular, come hell or high water. Very clear boundaries between care and correction established, people will choose which they want to fit into, either on the providing or receiving end of it and take the consequences associated with that.

    The aim of all public policy and politics will be congruence, not simply consensus or shared perspectives but proper congruence, and the management and/or resolution of what conflict and sincere differences remain after that will occupy future generations.

    Ayn Rand is no longer going to be for sale any place in this country. Although there's going to be a publishing drive on Erich Fromm and Abraham Maslow.
    I bet you would be associated with a socialist like Jean-Pierre Chevènement. Or maybe au gaullist like Nicolas Dupont-Aignan.

    Did you take the test?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    I bet you would be associated with a socialist like Jean-Pierre Chevènement. Or maybe au gaullist like Nicolas Dupont-Aignan.

    Did you take the test?
    Nawh, I dont think any of the politial tests I've seen in eight years are any good, so I didnt bother.

    I'm definitely not a Gaulist BTW.

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    Vous vous situez à gauche.

    Aucun parti ne correspond exactement à vos opinions.
    Cependant, les partis dont vous êtes le plus proche (dans l'ordre) :

    1. le Parti Socialiste
    mais vous ne partagez pas la même opinion sur l'importance de la responsabilité personnelle des gens.
    François Hollande est le candidat du Parti Socialiste.

    Et, dans une moindre mesure :

    2. le Parti Radical de Gauche (PRG)
    mais vous ne partagez pas la même opinion sur l'importance de la responsabilité personnelle des gens.
    Le PRG soutient la candidature de François Hollande.

    3. le Mouvement Démocrate (MoDem) de François Bayrou
    mais vous êtes plus ouvert sur les questions liées à l'évolution des moeurs.
    François Bayrou est candidat à l'élection présidentielle.

    4. le Parti de Gauche (PG), de Jean-Luc Mélenchon
    mais, en règle générale, vous accordez plus d'importance à la responsabilité personnelle des gens (ou moins d'importance au contexte dans lequel les gens évoluent).
    Jean-Luc Mélenchon est le candidat du Front de Gauche, au sein duquel se sont regroupés le PCF, le Parti de Gauche, et le parti Gauche Unitaire.


    Le(s) parti(s) qui vien(nen)t ensuite :
    5. le Mouvement Républicain et Citoyen (MRC) de Jean-Pierre Chevènement
    mais vous ne partagez pas la même opinion sur l'importance de la responsabilité personnelle des gens.
    Looks like I'm left except the responsibility for delinquency thing.

    That being said, I still don't know what to think of Hollande. I wouldn't vote for Sarkozy, but both of them seem uncomfortably populist to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Nawh, I dont think any of the politial tests I've seen in eight years are any good, so I didnt bother.

    I'm definitely not a Gaulist BTW.
    Hum, yeah.

    I still think you a are quite similar with Chevènement though.
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    You take the left.

    No party is exactly what you think.
    However, parties whom you are closest (in order):

    1. the Left Radical Party (PRG)
    The PRG supports the candidacy of Francois Hollande.

    And, to a lesser extent:

    2. the Socialist Party
    Francois Hollande is the candidate of the Socialist Party.

    3. The Modern Left, the party of Jean-Marie Bockel
    but you give more importance to the role of government in economic and social development.
    I vote that this test is biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Hum, yeah.

    I still think you a are quite similar with Chevènement though.
    Because I'm not a raging Queer Americophile capitalist?

    Anyway, if I were french I'd eat frogs legs and snails and have lots of women wanting me all day and all night and have a vaguely conceited attitude to the world and write dull books musing about being an intellectual.

    Like Satre. I hate him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Because I'm not a raging Queer Americophile capitalist?
    Yes, and because like him you are qocialist but put more importance on social conservatism and personal responsability.

    Anyway, if I were french I'd eat frogs legs and snails and have lots of women wanting me all day and all night and have a vaguely conceited attitude to the world and write dull books musing about being an intellectual.
    Except maybe for the frogs, is it different from the american you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Yes, and because like him you are qocialist but put more importance on social conservatism and personal responsability.



    Except maybe for the frogs, is it different from the american you?
    The American me drives massive trucks loaded with plutonium on ice roads and has even hotter Candian girl friends of scottish heritage. Also he does massive weights and is totally buff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    It's a problem of translation. Libéral =/= Liberal in the anglo-american sense, which equal a social-democrat or a socialist. Libéral = classical liberal, or or pro-market libertarian, just like Hayak, Bastiat, Friedman, etc.
    ah, that makes a lot more sense



    I'm always find funny to se an "anticapitalist" who's a Lil' Wayne's groupie. Haha.
    seriously lol lil Wayne is capitalist as hell
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    Falcarius test results, but obviously Blackmail would say they are wrong because he can apparently smell Communists from miles off .

    You are located sometimes on the right, sometimes on the left according to the topics approached.

    The parties to which you are closest (in order):

    1. the Democratic Movement (Modem) of France. Francois Bayrou is candidate for the presidential election.

    And, to a lesser extent: 2. The UMP (centre tendency) but you grant more importance with the role of State in the economic domain and social. UMP supports the candidature of Nicolas Sarkozy.
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