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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I've seen the country actually becoming less and less democratic for the past several decades.
    In some ways perhaps. But, way too many decisions are based on "public opinion". And, "public opinion" seems to largely be manufactured sound bites from the MSM (and I definately include in the MSM fox, Rush, et al.) unthinkingly repeated by the masses back to pollsters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    On top of that, are you saying that the USA 200 years ago was the best the USA has ever been?
    Did I mean something I didn't say and couldn't reasonably be inferred from what I did say?

    No.


    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    And the issue of this thread isn't really about being more or less democratic. Anyone can tell you that democracy, in whatever amount it is present, will be a negative or positive presence based on the civic literacy of the citizenry.
    Yes, but when a government is dedicated to procedures that balance and restrain power holding the law above all people then demagoguery is less likely regardless of how ill-informed the populace might be. At least when you have a law like the U.S. constitution that's the case.
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    I think the term for this is "As long as the narrative fits..." It seems like we all have certain conclusions stuck in our heads and whichever explanation/reason comes closest to leading to that conclusion will become 'fact'. Doesn't really matter how illogical it becomes when we dig deeper and look at it from various angles.
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